Notes: Australian Convict Ship Project

Notes

Matches 501 to 528 of 528

#	Notes	Linked to
501	Transferred to The Minden for Transportation to Western Australia	WICKHAM, Henry (I2090)
502	Transferred to The Minden for Transportation to Western Australia	WILFORD, Robert (I2091)
503	Transferred to The Minden for Transportation to Western Australia	WILLIAMS, John (I2093)
504	Transferred to The Minden for Transportation to Western Australia	WILLIAMS, John (I2094)
505	Transferred to The Minden for Transportation to Western Australia	WILSON, John (I2097)
506	Transferred to The Minden for Transportations to Western Australia	RIDER, George (I1992)
507	Trial of James Hornett & Jane Bailey: JANE BAILEY and JAMES HORNETT , stealing 1 desk, 2 knives, and 1 snuff-box, value 17l., and 5 5l.-Bank-notes; the property of Elizabeth Norcraft, in her dwelling-house.—2nd COUNT, feloniously receiving the same. MR. HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution. ELIZABETH NORCRAFT . I was formerly a houskeeper, I afterwards took a house, No. 22, York-street, in the parish of St. Marylebone. The prisoner Bailey was introduced to me by a lady who came to lodge in my house, and was employed by me on loth, 16th, and 17th of Aug. at needlework—she used to work in the front attic—I had a writing-desk in that room—I last saw it safe on the loth Aug., when I dusted it—I had in it two silver watches, two silver pen-knives, two pair of silver scissors, a valuable pearl snuff-box, a smelling-bottle, and various other things, and 37l. in money—there were seven 5l.-notes which I hid received from Major Angelo—Bailey had complained of the state of her health several times on the 16th and 17th—she said she had the toothache—on the 16th she said she had the mumps—on the evening of the 16th I said it was dark, we could not see to work—she said she could, and I went down, and left her in the room alone—she came down in about ten minutes—she then went upstairs with a candle, to fetch her clothes, and said she would come again at seven o'clock in the morning—she came down, and her candle was out—she put it down in an agitated way, and ran upstairs very quickly, and shut the door after her—I did not see the bundle that she brought down—she was in the dark—I had no suspicion of her, but she went out in great haste—I missed my desk on Thursday the 17th—she had been to work that day—I had before told her that if I lost that desk I was ruined, for everything I possessed was in it, and on the Tuesday she asked me if I had paid my rent and taxes—I said, "No; I had been so ill, and it had been so wet I had not gone out." Cross-examined by MR. WILDE.Q. Are you quite sure as to the day on which you lost this desk? A. I am sure it was taken on the 16th—I missed it on the 17th, between seven and eight in the evening—she had been gone about a quarter of an hour—I have not charged any one but her with stealing it—I had a carpenter there at work on the Saturday, and on Monday the 14th—on the Tuesday he was not there—I took the desk up on Monday night the 14th, when I went to bed—it never was up there before that—I took the carpenter up on suspicion. COURT. Q. Did he work there after the Monday? A. He came on the Wednesday and I took him up into the room—I never recollect seeing the desk after the loth—on the 16th I did not notice it—the carpenter went up on the 16th, but I went up with him—I staid till he had put a castor on the bed, and he and I went down together—I left Bailey in the room—I did not notice the desk—it stood on the left-hand side of a pair of drawers that was between the two windows. MR. WILDE. Q. Were you at home during the whole of the 15th and 16th? A. Yes; I never left my house at all—there were other persons there, but they went no further than the parlour-door—as far as I know they did not go upstairs—I saw a man in the house on the Tuesday with a post-office order—I dusted my desk that day, between eleven and twelve o'clock—the man came about four—I saw him in the passage—I was in the passage, and then in my little room—I can see the passage from my little room—Bailey was strongly recommended to me, and I recommended her to my friends—I should have got her a situation—on the Monday morning the carpenter put a little bit of brass into the key-hole of the desk—he put it in with a bit of glue. COURT. Q. Had he any basket, such as carpenters have, large enough to put the desk in? A. He had a basket, but not very big—there was nothing in it but a few nails and his hammer, and so on—I do not think it was large enough to have covered my desk—the carpenter is not here—he was cleared—Mr. Broughton saw nothing against him—I told him he was never in the room alone—Mr. Broughton said, why did I suspect him—I said I did not—that was in the morning, when Bailey was liberated because I had not sufficient evidence to retain her—after that was over I came out, and my friends said, "It is the carpenter"—I said, "Perhaps it would be as well for him to have a hearing"—we went in, and Mr. Broughton said, "Have you anything more against him?"—I said, "No." MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. At the time Bailey was discharged, had you discovered that the notes had been changed by Hornett? A. No. JAMES NIXON . I keep the house, 24, Francis-street, Tottenham-court-road. Bailey came to lodge there on the 2nd of August—she had a little back room, for which she was to pay 4s. 6d. a week—I asked her for a deposits—she said she had not got one: she was a poor servant girl out of place, and she wanted a cheap room—I know Hornett by seeing him come to the house to see Bailey—Hornett made application to me with respect to my coffee-shop, which he wished to take—he wished to know what I would let him have it for—he said he expected some money from his uncle, and he would consult with bis brother—his brother and he came about it, but I did not let him have it—this was about the 8th of August—on the 11th or 12th I applied to Bailey for rent—she said she had no money then, but she would pay me the two weeks together—on the 18th she gave me half a sovereign and I gave her a shilling—there was 9s. for two weeks' rent—on the morning of the 19th she bought a pair of boots of me—I think she paid me 4s. 6d. for them—I saw at that time that she had gold and silver to the amount of between 3l. and 4l:—Hornett used to come to see her occasionally—I saw him there about four days before Bailey paid me—he had been there between the 11th or 12th and the time I was paid. Cross-examined by MR. CLAKKSON. Q. Was it not three weeks before the 17th of August that Bailey came to you? A. No, two weeks—it was on the 15th her rent was due, and on the 18th she paid me. Cross-examined by MR. WILDE. Q. Are you certain it was on the 18th she paid you the rent? A. Yes—on this memorandum (looking at one) it says, "August the 8th, received one week, 4s. 6d., the 15th, received one week, 4s. 6d."—that is when the rent was due—that is my way of putting it down—I received it on the 18th. CHRISTOPHER RIPLET . My mother and myself live at No. 8, Cbapel-street, Tottenham-court-road—Hornett lodged there—Bailey took the lodging for him some time in June, at 3s. a week—she said it was for her brother—I applied to him about three weeks before the 17th of August for three weeks' rent—he told me to make out his bill, he would speak to his sister, and I should be paid—I made him out a bill of 9s. for three weeks' rent, and he paid it me about a fortnight before he left—he left on 17th August—I very frequently saw Bailey at Homett's—she came to my house on the night of 16th August, between eight and nine o'clock—she had a paper parcel similar to a letter wrapped in paper—she asked for James—I said he was gone to the theatre—she appeared very much excited, and said she must see him very particularly; she had a letter from his uncle, who was very ill indeed, and she must see him that night—she asked me to send my lad to the theatre to fetch him out—I said I could not think of such a thing; it was very full—she was rather troublesome, and I said, "If you must see him you had better take a candle and go up in his room and wait for him"—the shop is rather small, and I sent her up to be out of the way—she went up stairs—she came down two or three times afterwards to know if he was come in, and he was not—I went to bed about half-past eleven o'clock, leaving her in the room—in the morning Hornett called me up between six and seven o'clock—he said, "Ripley, I wish you would get up and get me a cup of coffee; I must go into the country, and I want to pay you"—I got it for him—Bailey breakfasted with him—I cannot say whether she came from out of the house, or whether she came down stairs—she had a parcel with her as large as a gown—it seemed to be something soft, and was in brown paper—I made out Hor-nett's bill—it came to 16s.—he gave me a new 5l. note to pay it—I had not change for it, and I gave it him back—my boy, William Leech, came down in about half an hour, and I saw that Mr. Dobree, the pawnbroker, was opening his shop—I said to Hornett, "I can get change for you now, Sir"—he gave the note to Leech, and he went and got it changed—Hornett then paid me my 16s.—he said he was going to the Eastern Counties Railway, and he went away in a cab—Bailey had gone away first with the parcel. JAMES NIXON re-examined. Bailey went out daily for a few hours—I do not know whether she went to work—she went out at various times, and came home generally very late in the evening. WILLIAM LEECH . On the morning of 17th Aug. I took a note from Mr. Hornett to get change at Mr. Dobree's—Mr. Bliss gave me the change, and he wrote on the note—I took the change to my master's. HENRY ROBERT BAYFIELD . I am a clerk in the Bank of England. I produce two 5l.-notes which were paid in there—they are Nos. 15075 and 15076. WILLIAM THOMAS BLISS . I am in the employ of Mr. Dobree, the pawnbroker. I have no recollection of Leech coming, but on the back of this note, No. 15076, here is, in my writing, 17, 1848—that indicates that I changed it on 17th Aug. SAMUEL LOWE . I am a tailor, in Barbican. Hornett came to my shop to buy a pair of trowsers—I cannot tell the date, but it was on the Monday morning before 24th Aug.—I think it was about the 20th or 21st—he paid for there with a new 5l. note—this is it, No. 15075—I wrote on it the name which he gave me. "Smith, 10, Bedford-row, Cambridge"—he said he was lodging in Whitccross-strert tor a short time, but his residence was at Cambridge. Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. When did you pay the note away? A. On the 24th—I had not seen Hornett before, to my knowledge—he came about eight o'clock in the morning—I saw him again about a fortnight afterwards—I am sure he did not say "Cambridge—heath"—he said "Cambridge," because I asked him if he knew a Mr. Watson, whe had been a neighbour of mine, and who had got a shop there, and he said he knew the shop—to the best-of my belief Hornett is the man—I know we are all liable to mistakes—I have not any doubt that he is the man. MAJOR RICHARD ANGLLO . I have lodged at Mrs. Norcroft's since June, 1847—in May last 1 received from Glyn's fifty 5l.-notes, numbered consecutively from No. 15051 to 15100—I spent them as I required them—I did not take the numbers regularly till I came to 15073—I had spent the numbers before 13073 before June—I paid Mrs. Norcroft ten, the notes from No. 15075 to 15085. Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You have a memorandum here?. A. Yes—I made this on Thursday night, 17th Aug., when Mrs. Norcroft spoke of her loss—I made it from my pocket-book, which I have here—here are the numbers of the notes I give her. ELIZABETH NORCERAFAT re-examined. I saw Horne't at my house on Tuesday, 15th Aug.—he was in my passage—he called to see Bailey, as I understood, with a Post-office order. WILLAM MOSES . I am a potman, in York-street, next door to Mrs. Norcraft. I saw Hornett at the corner of the mews, with his hands on the post, in the after part of the day—he was looking up to the top of the house—after he had been looking a little time, a female looked out of the attic window—it was Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday, I am not certain which—I think I heard of the robbery on Friday; it was in that week—I did not know which house Hornett was looking at, till I saw the female look out at 22—that female resembled the female prisoner—Hornett left where he was standing, went to the door, and placed his hand to the bell—I was not close enough to hear whether he pulled it—I was on the opposite side of the street—I cannot tell whether he pulled it or not—he stood back against the partition-board, as if he did not want to be seen—I did not stop to see whether he went in, as I was on my business. Bailey. I had worked four days in her kitchen. ELIZABETH NORCRAFT re-examined. She did, but not on that occasion—she told me in the morning that she expected a Post-office order—I did not hear what Hornett said to her in the passage—she Said it was too late. (George Walsh Hallam, Esq., a Magistrate of Hertfordshire, in whose service the prisoners had lived, gave them a good character.) BAILEY GUILTY of stealing. Aged 29 HORNETT GUILTY of receiving. Aged 24 Transported for Seven Years.	BAILEY, Jane (I1838)
508	Trial of James Hornett & Jane Bailey: JANE BAILEY and JAMES HORNETT , stealing 1 desk, 2 knives, and 1 snuff-box, value 17l., and 5 5l.-Bank-notes; the property of Elizabeth Norcraft, in her dwelling-house.—2nd COUNT, feloniously receiving the same. MR. HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution. ELIZABETH NORCRAFT . I was formerly a houskeeper, I afterwards took a house, No. 22, York-street, in the parish of St. Marylebone. The prisoner Bailey was introduced to me by a lady who came to lodge in my house, and was employed by me on loth, 16th, and 17th of Aug. at needlework—she used to work in the front attic—I had a writing-desk in that room—I last saw it safe on the loth Aug., when I dusted it—I had in it two silver watches, two silver pen-knives, two pair of silver scissors, a valuable pearl snuff-box, a smelling-bottle, and various other things, and 37l. in money—there were seven 5l.-notes which I hid received from Major Angelo—Bailey had complained of the state of her health several times on the 16th and 17th—she said she had the toothache—on the 16th she said she had the mumps—on the evening of the 16th I said it was dark, we could not see to work—she said she could, and I went down, and left her in the room alone—she came down in about ten minutes—she then went upstairs with a candle, to fetch her clothes, and said she would come again at seven o'clock in the morning—she came down, and her candle was out—she put it down in an agitated way, and ran upstairs very quickly, and shut the door after her—I did not see the bundle that she brought down—she was in the dark—I had no suspicion of her, but she went out in great haste—I missed my desk on Thursday the 17th—she had been to work that day—I had before told her that if I lost that desk I was ruined, for everything I possessed was in it, and on the Tuesday she asked me if I had paid my rent and taxes—I said, "No; I had been so ill, and it had been so wet I had not gone out." Cross-examined by MR. WILDE.Q. Are you quite sure as to the day on which you lost this desk? A. I am sure it was taken on the 16th—I missed it on the 17th, between seven and eight in the evening—she had been gone about a quarter of an hour—I have not charged any one but her with stealing it—I had a carpenter there at work on the Saturday, and on Monday the 14th—on the Tuesday he was not there—I took the desk up on Monday night the 14th, when I went to bed—it never was up there before that—I took the carpenter up on suspicion. COURT. Q. Did he work there after the Monday? A. He came on the Wednesday and I took him up into the room—I never recollect seeing the desk after the loth—on the 16th I did not notice it—the carpenter went up on the 16th, but I went up with him—I staid till he had put a castor on the bed, and he and I went down together—I left Bailey in the room—I did not notice the desk—it stood on the left-hand side of a pair of drawers that was between the two windows. MR. WILDE. Q. Were you at home during the whole of the 15th and 16th? A. Yes; I never left my house at all—there were other persons there, but they went no further than the parlour-door—as far as I know they did not go upstairs—I saw a man in the house on the Tuesday with a post-office order—I dusted my desk that day, between eleven and twelve o'clock—the man came about four—I saw him in the passage—I was in the passage, and then in my little room—I can see the passage from my little room—Bailey was strongly recommended to me, and I recommended her to my friends—I should have got her a situation—on the Monday morning the carpenter put a little bit of brass into the key-hole of the desk—he put it in with a bit of glue. COURT. Q. Had he any basket, such as carpenters have, large enough to put the desk in? A. He had a basket, but not very big—there was nothing in it but a few nails and his hammer, and so on—I do not think it was large enough to have covered my desk—the carpenter is not here—he was cleared—Mr. Broughton saw nothing against him—I told him he was never in the room alone—Mr. Broughton said, why did I suspect him—I said I did not—that was in the morning, when Bailey was liberated because I had not sufficient evidence to retain her—after that was over I came out, and my friends said, "It is the carpenter"—I said, "Perhaps it would be as well for him to have a hearing"—we went in, and Mr. Broughton said, "Have you anything more against him?"—I said, "No." MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. At the time Bailey was discharged, had you discovered that the notes had been changed by Hornett? A. No. JAMES NIXON . I keep the house, 24, Francis-street, Tottenham-court-road. Bailey came to lodge there on the 2nd of August—she had a little back room, for which she was to pay 4s. 6d. a week—I asked her for a deposits—she said she had not got one: she was a poor servant girl out of place, and she wanted a cheap room—I know Hornett by seeing him come to the house to see Bailey—Hornett made application to me with respect to my coffee-shop, which he wished to take—he wished to know what I would let him have it for—he said he expected some money from his uncle, and he would consult with bis brother—his brother and he came about it, but I did not let him have it—this was about the 8th of August—on the 11th or 12th I applied to Bailey for rent—she said she had no money then, but she would pay me the two weeks together—on the 18th she gave me half a sovereign and I gave her a shilling—there was 9s. for two weeks' rent—on the morning of the 19th she bought a pair of boots of me—I think she paid me 4s. 6d. for them—I saw at that time that she had gold and silver to the amount of between 3l. and 4l:—Hornett used to come to see her occasionally—I saw him there about four days before Bailey paid me—he had been there between the 11th or 12th and the time I was paid. Cross-examined by MR. CLAKKSON. Q. Was it not three weeks before the 17th of August that Bailey came to you? A. No, two weeks—it was on the 15th her rent was due, and on the 18th she paid me. Cross-examined by MR. WILDE. Q. Are you certain it was on the 18th she paid you the rent? A. Yes—on this memorandum (looking at one) it says, "August the 8th, received one week, 4s. 6d., the 15th, received one week, 4s. 6d."—that is when the rent was due—that is my way of putting it down—I received it on the 18th. CHRISTOPHER RIPLET . My mother and myself live at No. 8, Cbapel-street, Tottenham-court-road—Hornett lodged there—Bailey took the lodging for him some time in June, at 3s. a week—she said it was for her brother—I applied to him about three weeks before the 17th of August for three weeks' rent—he told me to make out his bill, he would speak to his sister, and I should be paid—I made him out a bill of 9s. for three weeks' rent, and he paid it me about a fortnight before he left—he left on 17th August—I very frequently saw Bailey at Homett's—she came to my house on the night of 16th August, between eight and nine o'clock—she had a paper parcel similar to a letter wrapped in paper—she asked for James—I said he was gone to the theatre—she appeared very much excited, and said she must see him very particularly; she had a letter from his uncle, who was very ill indeed, and she must see him that night—she asked me to send my lad to the theatre to fetch him out—I said I could not think of such a thing; it was very full—she was rather troublesome, and I said, "If you must see him you had better take a candle and go up in his room and wait for him"—the shop is rather small, and I sent her up to be out of the way—she went up stairs—she came down two or three times afterwards to know if he was come in, and he was not—I went to bed about half-past eleven o'clock, leaving her in the room—in the morning Hornett called me up between six and seven o'clock—he said, "Ripley, I wish you would get up and get me a cup of coffee; I must go into the country, and I want to pay you"—I got it for him—Bailey breakfasted with him—I cannot say whether she came from out of the house, or whether she came down stairs—she had a parcel with her as large as a gown—it seemed to be something soft, and was in brown paper—I made out Hor-nett's bill—it came to 16s.—he gave me a new 5l. note to pay it—I had not change for it, and I gave it him back—my boy, William Leech, came down in about half an hour, and I saw that Mr. Dobree, the pawnbroker, was opening his shop—I said to Hornett, "I can get change for you now, Sir"—he gave the note to Leech, and he went and got it changed—Hornett then paid me my 16s.—he said he was going to the Eastern Counties Railway, and he went away in a cab—Bailey had gone away first with the parcel. JAMES NIXON re-examined. Bailey went out daily for a few hours—I do not know whether she went to work—she went out at various times, and came home generally very late in the evening. WILLIAM LEECH . On the morning of 17th Aug. I took a note from Mr. Hornett to get change at Mr. Dobree's—Mr. Bliss gave me the change, and he wrote on the note—I took the change to my master's. HENRY ROBERT BAYFIELD . I am a clerk in the Bank of England. I produce two 5l.-notes which were paid in there—they are Nos. 15075 and 15076. WILLIAM THOMAS BLISS . I am in the employ of Mr. Dobree, the pawnbroker. I have no recollection of Leech coming, but on the back of this note, No. 15076, here is, in my writing, 17, 1848—that indicates that I changed it on 17th Aug. SAMUEL LOWE . I am a tailor, in Barbican. Hornett came to my shop to buy a pair of trowsers—I cannot tell the date, but it was on the Monday morning before 24th Aug.—I think it was about the 20th or 21st—he paid for there with a new 5l. note—this is it, No. 15075—I wrote on it the name which he gave me. "Smith, 10, Bedford-row, Cambridge"—he said he was lodging in Whitccross-strert tor a short time, but his residence was at Cambridge. Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. When did you pay the note away? A. On the 24th—I had not seen Hornett before, to my knowledge—he came about eight o'clock in the morning—I saw him again about a fortnight afterwards—I am sure he did not say "Cambridge—heath"—he said "Cambridge," because I asked him if he knew a Mr. Watson, whe had been a neighbour of mine, and who had got a shop there, and he said he knew the shop—to the best-of my belief Hornett is the man—I know we are all liable to mistakes—I have not any doubt that he is the man. MAJOR RICHARD ANGLLO . I have lodged at Mrs. Norcroft's since June, 1847—in May last 1 received from Glyn's fifty 5l.-notes, numbered consecutively from No. 15051 to 15100—I spent them as I required them—I did not take the numbers regularly till I came to 15073—I had spent the numbers before 13073 before June—I paid Mrs. Norcroft ten, the notes from No. 15075 to 15085. Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You have a memorandum here?. A. Yes—I made this on Thursday night, 17th Aug., when Mrs. Norcroft spoke of her loss—I made it from my pocket-book, which I have here—here are the numbers of the notes I give her. ELIZABETH NORCERAFAT re-examined. I saw Horne't at my house on Tuesday, 15th Aug.—he was in my passage—he called to see Bailey, as I understood, with a Post-office order. WILLAM MOSES . I am a potman, in York-street, next door to Mrs. Norcraft. I saw Hornett at the corner of the mews, with his hands on the post, in the after part of the day—he was looking up to the top of the house—after he had been looking a little time, a female looked out of the attic window—it was Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday, I am not certain which—I think I heard of the robbery on Friday; it was in that week—I did not know which house Hornett was looking at, till I saw the female look out at 22—that female resembled the female prisoner—Hornett left where he was standing, went to the door, and placed his hand to the bell—I was not close enough to hear whether he pulled it—I was on the opposite side of the street—I cannot tell whether he pulled it or not—he stood back against the partition-board, as if he did not want to be seen—I did not stop to see whether he went in, as I was on my business. Bailey. I had worked four days in her kitchen. ELIZABETH NORCRAFT re-examined. She did, but not on that occasion—she told me in the morning that she expected a Post-office order—I did not hear what Hornett said to her in the passage—she Said it was too late. (George Walsh Hallam, Esq., a Magistrate of Hertfordshire, in whose service the prisoners had lived, gave them a good character.) BAILEY GUILTY of stealing. Aged 29 HORNETT GUILTY of receiving. Aged 24 Transported for Seven Years.	HORNETT, James (I1837)
509	Trial of Jane Bailey and James Hornett: JANE BAILEY and JAMES HORNETT , stealing 1 desk, 2 knives, and 1 snuff-box, value 17l., and 5 5l.-Bank-notes; the property of Elizabeth Norcraft, in her dwelling-house.—2nd COUNT, feloniously receiving the same. MR. HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution. ELIZABETH NORCRAFT . I was formerly a houskeeper, I afterwards took a house, No. 22, York-street, in the parish of St. Marylebone. The prisoner Bailey was introduced to me by a lady who came to lodge in my house, and was employed by me on loth, 16th, and 17th of Aug. at needlework—she used to work in the front attic—I had a writing-desk in that room—I last saw it safe on the loth Aug., when I dusted it—I had in it two silver watches, two silver pen-knives, two pair of silver scissors, a valuable pearl snuff-box, a smelling-bottle, and various other things, and 37l. in money—there were seven 5l.-notes which I hid received from Major Angelo—Bailey had complained of the state of her health several times on the 16th and 17th—she said she had the toothache—on the 16th she said she had the mumps—on the evening of the 16th I said it was dark, we could not see to work—she said she could, and I went down, and left her in the room alone—she came down in about ten minutes—she then went upstairs with a candle, to fetch her clothes, and said she would come again at seven o'clock in the morning—she came down, and her candle was out—she put it down in an agitated way, and ran upstairs very quickly, and shut the door after her—I did not see the bundle that she brought down—she was in the dark—I had no suspicion of her, but she went out in great haste—I missed my desk on Thursday the 17th—she had been to work that day—I had before told her that if I lost that desk I was ruined, for everything I possessed was in it, and on the Tuesday she asked me if I had paid my rent and taxes—I said, "No; I had been so ill, and it had been so wet I had not gone out." Cross-examined by MR. WILDE.Q. Are you quite sure as to the day on which you lost this desk? A. I am sure it was taken on the 16th—I missed it on the 17th, between seven and eight in the evening—she had been gone about a quarter of an hour—I have not charged any one but her with stealing it—I had a carpenter there at work on the Saturday, and on Monday the 14th—on the Tuesday he was not there—I took the desk up on Monday night the 14th, when I went to bed—it never was up there before that—I took the carpenter up on suspicion. COURT. Q. Did he work there after the Monday? A. He came on the Wednesday and I took him up into the room—I never recollect seeing the desk after the loth—on the 16th I did not notice it—the carpenter went up on the 16th, but I went up with him—I staid till he had put a castor on the bed, and he and I went down together—I left Bailey in the room—I did not notice the desk—it stood on the left-hand side of a pair of drawers that was between the two windows. MR. WILDE. Q. Were you at home during the whole of the 15th and 16th? A. Yes; I never left my house at all—there were other persons there, but they went no further than the parlour-door—as far as I know they did not go upstairs—I saw a man in the house on the Tuesday with a post-office order—I dusted my desk that day, between eleven and twelve o'clock—the man came about four—I saw him in the passage—I was in the passage, and then in my little room—I can see the passage from my little room—Bailey was strongly recommended to me, and I recommended her to my friends—I should have got her a situation—on the Monday morning the carpenter put a little bit of brass into the key-hole of the desk—he put it in with a bit of glue. COURT. Q. Had he any basket, such as carpenters have, large enough to put the desk in? A. He had a basket, but not very big—there was nothing in it but a few nails and his hammer, and so on—I do not think it was large enough to have covered my desk—the carpenter is not here—he was cleared—Mr. Broughton saw nothing against him—I told him he was never in the room alone—Mr. Broughton said, why did I suspect him—I said I did not—that was in the morning, when Bailey was liberated because I had not sufficient evidence to retain her—after that was over I came out, and my friends said, "It is the carpenter"—I said, "Perhaps it would be as well for him to have a hearing"—we went in, and Mr. Broughton said, "Have you anything more against him?"—I said, "No." MR. HUDDLESTON. Q. At the time Bailey was discharged, had you discovered that the notes had been changed by Hornett? A. No. JAMES NIXON . I keep the house, 24, Francis-street, Tottenham-court-road. Bailey came to lodge there on the 2nd of August—she had a little back room, for which she was to pay 4s. 6d. a week—I asked her for a deposits—she said she had not got one: she was a poor servant girl out of place, and she wanted a cheap room—I know Hornett by seeing him come to the house to see Bailey—Hornett made application to me with respect to my coffee-shop, which he wished to take—he wished to know what I would let him have it for—he said he expected some money from his uncle, and he would consult with bis brother—his brother and he came about it, but I did not let him have it—this was about the 8th of August—on the 11th or 12th I applied to Bailey for rent—she said she had no money then, but she would pay me the two weeks together—on the 18th she gave me half a sovereign and I gave her a shilling—there was 9s. for two weeks' rent—on the morning of the 19th she bought a pair of boots of me—I think she paid me 4s. 6d. for them—I saw at that time that she had gold and silver to the amount of between 3l. and 4l:—Hornett used to come to see her occasionally—I saw him there about four days before Bailey paid me—he had been there between the 11th or 12th and the time I was paid. Cross-examined by MR. CLAKKSON. Q. Was it not three weeks before the 17th of August that Bailey came to you? A. No, two weeks—it was on the 15th her rent was due, and on the 18th she paid me. Cross-examined by MR. WILDE. Q. Are you certain it was on the 18th she paid you the rent? A. Yes—on this memorandum (looking at one) it says, "August the 8th, received one week, 4s. 6d., the 15th, received one week, 4s. 6d."—that is when the rent was due—that is my way of putting it down—I received it on the 18th. CHRISTOPHER RIPLET . My mother and myself live at No. 8, Cbapel-street, Tottenham-court-road—Hornett lodged there—Bailey took the lodging for him some time in June, at 3s. a week—she said it was for her brother—I applied to him about three weeks before the 17th of August for three weeks' rent—he told me to make out his bill, he would speak to his sister, and I should be paid—I made him out a bill of 9s. for three weeks' rent, and he paid it me about a fortnight before he left—he left on 17th August—I very frequently saw Bailey at Homett's—she came to my house on the night of 16th August, between eight and nine o'clock—she had a paper parcel similar to a letter wrapped in paper—she asked for James—I said he was gone to the theatre—she appeared very much excited, and said she must see him very particularly; she had a letter from his uncle, who was very ill indeed, and she must see him that night—she asked me to send my lad to the theatre to fetch him out—I said I could not think of such a thing; it was very full—she was rather troublesome, and I said, "If you must see him you had better take a candle and go up in his room and wait for him"—the shop is rather small, and I sent her up to be out of the way—she went up stairs—she came down two or three times afterwards to know if he was come in, and he was not—I went to bed about half-past eleven o'clock, leaving her in the room—in the morning Hornett called me up between six and seven o'clock—he said, "Ripley, I wish you would get up and get me a cup of coffee; I must go into the country, and I want to pay you"—I got it for him—Bailey breakfasted with him—I cannot say whether she came from out of the house, or whether she came down stairs—she had a parcel with her as large as a gown—it seemed to be something soft, and was in brown paper—I made out Hor-nett's bill—it came to 16s.—he gave me a new 5l. note to pay it—I had not change for it, and I gave it him back—my boy, William Leech, came down in about half an hour, and I saw that Mr. Dobree, the pawnbroker, was opening his shop—I said to Hornett, "I can get change for you now, Sir"—he gave the note to Leech, and he went and got it changed—Hornett then paid me my 16s.—he said he was going to the Eastern Counties Railway, and he went away in a cab—Bailey had gone away first with the parcel. JAMES NIXON re-examined. Bailey went out daily for a few hours—I do not know whether she went to work—she went out at various times, and came home generally very late in the evening. WILLIAM LEECH . On the morning of 17th Aug. I took a note from Mr. Hornett to get change at Mr. Dobree's—Mr. Bliss gave me the change, and he wrote on the note—I took the change to my master's. HENRY ROBERT BAYFIELD . I am a clerk in the Bank of England. I produce two 5l.-notes which were paid in there—they are Nos. 15075 and 15076. WILLIAM THOMAS BLISS . I am in the employ of Mr. Dobree, the pawnbroker. I have no recollection of Leech coming, but on the back of this note, No. 15076, here is, in my writing, 17, 1848—that indicates that I changed it on 17th Aug. SAMUEL LOWE . I am a tailor, in Barbican. Hornett came to my shop to buy a pair of trowsers—I cannot tell the date, but it was on the Monday morning before 24th Aug.—I think it was about the 20th or 21st—he paid for there with a new 5l. note—this is it, No. 15075—I wrote on it the name which he gave me. "Smith, 10, Bedford-row, Cambridge"—he said he was lodging in Whitccross-strert tor a short time, but his residence was at Cambridge. Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. When did you pay the note away? A. On the 24th—I had not seen Hornett before, to my knowledge—he came about eight o'clock in the morning—I saw him again about a fortnight afterwards—I am sure he did not say "Cambridge—heath"—he said "Cambridge," because I asked him if he knew a Mr. Watson, whe had been a neighbour of mine, and who had got a shop there, and he said he knew the shop—to the best-of my belief Hornett is the man—I know we are all liable to mistakes—I have not any doubt that he is the man. MAJOR RICHARD ANGLLO . I have lodged at Mrs. Norcroft's since June, 1847—in May last 1 received from Glyn's fifty 5l.-notes, numbered consecutively from No. 15051 to 15100—I spent them as I required them—I did not take the numbers regularly till I came to 15073—I had spent the numbers before 13073 before June—I paid Mrs. Norcroft ten, the notes from No. 15075 to 15085. Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON. Q. You have a memorandum here?. A. Yes—I made this on Thursday night, 17th Aug., when Mrs. Norcroft spoke of her loss—I made it from my pocket-book, which I have here—here are the numbers of the notes I give her. ELIZABETH NORCERAFAT re-examined. I saw Horne't at my house on Tuesday, 15th Aug.—he was in my passage—he called to see Bailey, as I understood, with a Post-office order. WILLAM MOSES . I am a potman, in York-street, next door to Mrs. Norcraft. I saw Hornett at the corner of the mews, with his hands on the post, in the after part of the day—he was looking up to the top of the house—after he had been looking a little time, a female looked out of the attic window—it was Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday, I am not certain which—I think I heard of the robbery on Friday; it was in that week—I did not know which house Hornett was looking at, till I saw the female look out at 22—that female resembled the female prisoner—Hornett left where he was standing, went to the door, and placed his hand to the bell—I was not close enough to hear whether he pulled it—I was on the opposite side of the street—I cannot tell whether he pulled it or not—he stood back against the partition-board, as if he did not want to be seen—I did not stop to see whether he went in, as I was on my business. Bailey. I had worked four days in her kitchen. ELIZABETH NORCRAFT re-examined. She did, but not on that occasion—she told me in the morning that she expected a Post-office order—I did not hear what Hornett said to her in the passage—she Said it was too late. (George Walsh Hallam, Esq., a Magistrate of Hertfordshire, in whose service the prisoners had lived, gave them a good character.) BAILEY GUILTY of stealing. Aged 29 HORNETT GUILTY of receiving. Aged 24 Transported for Seven Years.	BAILEY, Jane (I1838)
510	Trial Transcript from the Old Bailey: DANIEL GUY , stealing 1 watch, value 24l.; the goods of Maria Briggs, from her person: having been before convicted. MARIA BRIGGS . I live with my mother, who is a widow. On Sunday evening, 15th Sept., about twenty minutes past eight o'clock, I was in Church-street, Marylebone, with a friend—my brother was walking a little way behind me—the prisoner came up to me, snatched my watch from my side, and ran away—it was suspended by a hook to my dress, there was no cord or chain to it—my brother ran after him—I had never seen him before—I am quite sure he is the person. Cross-examined by MR. O'BRIEN. Q. When did you see him again? A. Next morning, at the station—the policeman came and told me that the person who snatched my watch was in custody—he was alone when I saw him at the station—he ran away the instant he snatched my watch; he ran past me, and I ran to my brother—he had passed my brother before I told him—it was rather dark. JAMES BIGGS . I am the last witness's brother. On this evening I was walking a little way behind her, saw the prisoner rush from her, and run down Salisbury-street—I ran after him, but did not catch him—I had him five minutes in view—I have not the slightest doubt that he is the man—I saw him again next morning at the station. Cross-examined. Q. You mean his back was to you five minutes? A. I saw him sideways as well—I did not know anything had occurred till my sister came up, but my attention was drawn to him by seeing him rush from her—he had got perhaps fifteen yards past me before she came up—his face is familiar to me, but I cannot swear I ever saw him before—it was dark. JAMES CLOWTING (policeman, D 166). I took the prisoner on Monday, 16th, at Great James-street, Lisson-grove—I said, "Well, Guy, you must come to the station with me, for stealing a gold watch from a lady in Church-street last night"—he said, "I know nothing at all about it"—we met the woman he lives with, and she said, "What for, now?"—he said, "For them gold things." JAMES CLARK (policeman, D 268). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's conviction at this Court—(read—Convicted Nov. 1848, having been before convicted—Confined one year)—I was present—he is the person. GUILTY .† Aged 21.— Transported for Ten Years.	GUY, Daniel (I2215)
511	Trial Transcript from the Old Bailey: EDWARD COOTE , stealing, whilst employed in the Post-office, a letter containing a half-sovereign; the moneys of her Majesty's PostmasterGeneral. MESSRS. CLARKSON and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution. WALTER ROBERTSON SCULTHORPE . I am one of the presidents of the London district offices of the General Post-office. On Saturday, 28th Sept., for reasons I had, I made up this letter (produced), and put into it a half-sovereign—I sealed it as it is sealed now, and saw it addressed to "Miss Mary Ann Ingram, Cliff-terrace, near Clifton-bars, Margate, Kent"—I then gave it to Peak, the officer, and directed him to post it at the Tottenham North-office on Monday morning—if it was posted at half-past seven on Monday morning, it would be forwarded by the mail-cart to the principal office at Tottenham, where it would arrive about ten o'clock—it would then be placed in the London bag, and forwarded to the chief office in London—on Monday morning, 30th, I proceeded to Stamford-hill—I got there about ten o'clock—I there met the mail-cart that was bringing the bag from Tottenham—I took possession of the bag, and opened it—it did not contain this letter—I then went with Peak and Mr. Cole, one of the inspectors of letter-carriers, to the principal office at Tottenham, at which the prisoner was employed as a letter-carrier—I arrived there about half-past ten—I saw the prisoner leave the office, and when he had got about fifty yards I stopped him, and asked whether he bad cut open the Tottenham North-office bag that morning—I meant merely opened it in the usual course—he said, "No, Bowers did"—(he is another letter-carrier employed in the same office)—I asked whether he had sorted any of the letters—he said he had—I told him there was a money-letter missing—he made no answer—I then directed Peak to search him, and I saw him take this letter out of the inner pocket of his coat—it was in the same state as it is now, unopened—I then said to the prisoner, "How do you account for having this letter in your pocket?"—he said, "I did not know it was there"—I then gave him into custody—the letter bears the stamp of the North Tottenham-office—there is no date to it—(the witness here opened the letter, and it contained a half-sovereign)—this is my half-sovereign—I put some mark on it—the prisoner would in sorting the letters have the opportunity of seeing the letter, and taking it if so minded—it has not been opened till the present moment. Cross-examined by MR. WOOLLETT. Q. Is there such a person at Miss Ingram, of Cliff-terrace? A. There is not; it was a fictitious name—I cannot say whether Peak knew there had been any irregularities—I merely gave him the letter, with instructions to put it into the post—he could form a very good idea for what object it was—I did not tell him anything; I told him to post that letter at such a time—I had many times instructed him to post letters for me—after the letter was posted by Peak, it would be taken out of the letter-box, by the receiver at Tottenham North-office, and tied up in a bundle—it would then come into the hands of Bowers and the prisoner—there are four letter-carriers employed there—I cannot say which of the four it would come to—when I got to Tottenham I entered the office in company with Peak and Mr. Cole—Peak was in plain clothes—I cannot say whether the men would know that Peak was an officer; he has been an officer twenty years, and a great many years belonging to the Post-office—when I entered there was only one person in the room, Ellis, an old letter-carrier—the four letter-carriers would be the only persons who would enter that room from the time the letter reached the office to the time I went there—their names are Ellis, Bowers, the prisoner, and Cates—they would all have access to the letters—the letter was found in the inner tail-pocket of the prisoner's official coat—he has been thirteen years in the service, of the Post-office. MR. BODKIN. Q. On finding the bag did not contain the letter you looked for, you went to the chief office at Tottenham? A. I did; I waited outside till the prisoner came out—the persons in the office had no opportunity of seeing me waiting outside—two other letter-carriers came out, within two or three minutes of each other—the prisoner was the second—he was under my sight from the moment he came out till I went up to him—Peak was at the other side of the office—Mr. Cole was standing with me—the persons in the office would not have an opportunity of seeing Peak—I saw no communication whatever take place between either of the other letter-carriers that came out and the prisoner. MATTHEW PEAK . On Saturday, 28th Sept., I received this letter from Mr. Sculthorpe—in consequence of directions from him, I retained it till Monday morning, and then, about twenty minutes past seven, I dropped it into the letter-box-at the North-office, Tottenham—I was afterwards, on the same morning, at the principal office at Tottenham—in consequence of directions from Mr. Sculthorpe I searched the prisoner, and found this letter, with the seal unbroken, in his left inside coat-pocket—I then took him into custody. Cross-examined. Q. There was no outside pocket was there? A. Not that I am aware of—when we first went to the office at Tottenham, I remained about 100 yards off, behind a wall—the sorting-room is in the shop—there are windows to it—I should think any person in the room could see any person moving outside—Mr. Cole has been in the Post-office twenty-five years—I should think he would be well known. DIANA BENISON . I live with my son, who keeps the North Post-office at Tottenham. I attend to the post-office business—this letter bears the mark of our office—on Monday morning, 30th Sept., I made up the bag—I always begin at half-past nine o'clock, and between that and a little before ten the bag is done—the mail-cart comes for it a little before ten—I delivered the bag to the driver of the mail-cart in the ordinary way—the bag contained all the letters that had been posted at our office that morning. WILLIAM ELLIS . I am principal letter-carrier and charge-taker at the chief office at Tottenham, and have been so forty years—the prisoner is one of the letter-carriers at the same office—he was on duty on the morning of 30th Sept.—I saw him assist in sorting the letters which arrived in the mailbag from the North-office at Tottenham—the local letters are separated from those that are to go to London—a letter for Margate in that bag might come into the prisoner's hands in sorting—if it did, it would be his duty to tie it up and put it into the bag going to London by the mail-cart—the cart leaves the principal office about five minutes past ten, and goes over by Stamford-hill. Cross-examined. Q. You were not before the Magistrate, I believe? A. No. —BOWERS. I am one of the assistant letter-carriers at the principal office at Tottenham. On Monday, 30th Sept., I cut the string of the bag that came from the North-office that morning—the prisoner and Cates were there—all three of us were assisting. GUILTY.—Recommended to mercy by the Jury on account of his previous good character.— Transported for Ten Tears. Before Mr. Justice Erle.	COOTE, Edward (I2164)
512	Trial Transcript from The Old Bailey: EDWIN SMITH and THOMAS HARDY , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Mary Higgins, and stealing 4 coats, 1 pair of trowsers, 2 waistcoats, and 1 telescope, value 4l. 1s.; the goods of James Bull: 1 coat, 1 pair of trowsers, 2 waistcoats, and 1 handkerchief, 1l. 1s. 6d.; the goods of Edwin Bull; both having been before convicted. MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution. MARY HIGGINS . I am a widow, and live at 8, Oswell-place, Kennington-lane. On Wednesday, 16th Oct., I left the house about eight or nine o'clock in the morning; Mrs. Bull and her two sons, James and Edwin, live there—I left no one in the house—I returned on the Thursday morning, at ten—Mrs. Bull had given me the key, and I found the door on the single lock—I found a candle in the passage, and the back-door open—I found the doors open on the floor occupied by Mrs. Bull, and all the things in disorder, and the boxes broken open—I found Mrs. Bull at Kennington-lane, at her other house, where she was removing from—she had not removed all her furniture—she returned with me, and her sons afterwards came. JANE BULL . I live on the first-floor, at 8, Oswell-place, with my sons—they had some boxes in the back-room—on 16th Oct., I left the house about eight o'clock in the evening, leaving no one there—I left the doors in my apartments locked, and fastened the house up—the back-door was bolted, and I double-locked the front; I am quite certain of that—I took the key with me, and gave it to Mrs. Higgins—I did not return that night—in the morning Mrs. Higgins came to me, went in search of my sons, and then returned to the house—my sons went up to the back-room. JAMES BULL . I live with my mother and brother, at 8, Oswell-place, and occupy the back first-floor room—I and my brother had four or five boxes in that room, containing clothes—on 16th Oct., I left at eleven o'clock, leaving my mother there—the boxes were then packed up at one side of the room, and four of them were locked—I did not return till the Thursday, when my mother came for me—my brother arrived about five minutes before me—I went into the back room, and found the boxes in the middle of the room, all opened, and the contents scattered about the room—I examined them, and missed four coats, one pair of trowsers, two waistcoats, and a telescope, belonging to me, which I had seen on the Saturday before, but the boxes I saw safe on the Wednesday. EDWARD BULL . I live at 8, Oswell-place—I left on the Wednesday morning before eight o'clock, the boxes were then safe—on the following day I returned with my mother to the house about four in the afternoon; examined the back-room, found the boxes broken open, and things thrown about the place—I missed a silk handkerchief and waistcoat. CHARLES BURGESS GOFF ( policeman, L 8). On Wednesday night 16th Oct., shortly after eleven o'clock, I was with Garforth in Walcot-place, a short distance past the Ship, and met the prisoners together—I first saw them when they were ten feet in front of me—they came on towards me, and passed me—I had known them both upwards of twelvemonths—there was a light where I first saw them—I had a perfect view of them which caused me to look round, and I saw something bulky under Smith's coat on the right side—Hardy was on his left, they were in company and speaking—it was about twenty or twenty-five yards from Ship-lane—I have seen and examined this plan (produced) with the place, it is correct—I called the attention of Garforth to them, we turned and followed them—they had then got to the corner of Ship-lane, and we lost sight of them, and when we got in sight of them again they were running in the centre of Ship-lane as hard as they could—there are two lights at the corner of Ship-lane—they could not have turned down any other turning, there is none—we pursued them from Ship-lane down St. Mary-square, and they separated here (pointing it out)—Smith took the direction of Bird-street, and Hardy went across Lambeth-square into Walcot-square, which leads again into Bird-street—I ran after Hardy through St. Mary's-square, where he ran nearly close to the garden—there is an iron railing separating the square from the garden—when he was opposite the garden I saw him put his right arm, which was next the railing, up towards the railing near the gate—I was twenty or thirty yards from him, and continued to pursue him, calling, "Stop thief!"—he ran into Walcot-square, where I came up to him and found him in Edgar's custody, and Taylor came up at the same moment—I have not the slightest doubt he was the same person I had first seen and pursued—I directed them to take charge of him—I went round Bird-street, and found Smith in Garforth's custody—he had hold of him with his left hand, and had some clothes in his right—I took Smith to where I had left Hardy, and took them to the station—I found two coats on Smith over his own, and in his coat-pocket a telescope, a black silk waistcoat, and in his trowsers-pocket a blue silk handkerchief (produced)—the inspector on duty asked Hardy his address, and he gave 5, Martyn-street, Friar-street, Blackfriars-road—I know that he lived at 63, Webber-street, which is five or six minutes walk from the address he gave—about one o'clock the same morning I went to Webber-street, examined the front parlour where I had frequently seen Hardy, and in a drawer there I found these two pair of pliers (produced)—I have seen such in the possession of house-breakers—they are used for opening locks from the outside without noise—if a key is left inside in the lock, and the door closed, by inserting one of these in the key hole, and taking hold of the protruding part yon can turn the key—I also found six keys (produced), two of which have been partly filed—here is another key (produced) with a black composition on one side of it, which by turning it in a door would take an impression of the wards of the lock, and so enable another key to be made or part of this one filed off so as to make it fit—Mrs. Higgins's house is in the parish of St. Mary, Lambeth. Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How do you know the house in Webber-street is occupied by the prisoner? A. I have seen him go in and out twenty or thirty times in the last two or three months—I saw him the day previous to taking him—I believe he is the holder of the house, and the female there is his wife—Hardy ran on one side of the plantation, and Smith the other—I took Hardy about eight or ten minutes' walk from Mrs. Higgins, there was nothing found on him. Smith. Q. Did you ever see us together before? A. No. THOMAS GARFORTH (policeman, L 151). On the evening of 16th Oct., I was with Goff in Walcot-place, and saw the prisoners together, meeting us—I had known Hardy about twelve months, and Smith fifteen or sixteen months—I recognised them at once—Goff turned round as they passed, and spoke to me—there was a lamp about fifteen yards from where we met them—as Smith passed he was on the inner side, and I saw something bulky under his coat—we followed them—they turned down Ship-lane, and we next saw them in Ship-lane running—I had seen Hardy turn round at the corner of the lane, look towards me and Goff, and run on—we followed them into St. Mary's-square, where they separated—I followed Smith through the square on the left side—he ran near the plantation of the garden which is very wide there, at first, but as he got further he went to the centre of the road—I have seen the place where the coat was found by Atolee—I should say that is at least twenty yards from where Smith ran—I should say he could not have thrown it there—I saw him drop a coat, pair of trowsers, and waistcoat which I picked up—I continued to pursue him for about a hundred yards, when he dropped another waistcoat, which a man picked up and gave me—I came up to him in Bird-street, and he was in custody of a man named Richardson—I had called out the whole of the way I ran—Goff afterwards came up and took Smith away—we then retraced the route Smith had taken, and found this jemmy (produced) about fifty yards from where he was stopped—it was picked up by a man in my presence, and appeared to be warm as if it had recently come from a person's pocket—this skeleton key (produced) of which the wards have been filed away, was handed to me at the same time—I afterwards tried it to Mrs. Higgins's door, and it opened it without the slightest inconvenience—I was shown the boxes in the back room which had apparently been forced open, and the marks corresponded with this crowbar—these (produced) are some of the pieces of the boxes—I know that Hardy lived at 63, Webber-row—I have often seen him in and out of the house, and walking from the direction of it—I produce the clothes. WILLIAM ATLEE (policeman, L 4). On 16th Oct. I was sent by Goff to search the garden at 8, St Mary's-square, and I found this coat (produced) in the beginning of the square—there is an iron railing right round the square—it was about three yards from the railing on one side, and fifteen or more from the other, where Smith ran—there are several trees between. EDWIN BULL re-examined. This coat, blue handkerchief, and waistcoat, are mine. JAMES BULL re-examined. These four c oats, two waistcoasts, pair of trowsers, and telescope are mine, and worth 4l. and upwards—I had seen the telescope on the Saturday. (Smith's statement before the Magistrate was here read)—"I had been down the Brixton-road to see a friend; as I was returning, I turned down a turning to make water; I picked up a bundle down the turning, I opened it to see the contents of it; I carried the things openly for anybody to see them, I did not conceal them, in any way; going down the Kennington-road, just before we met the officers, I met this good man—(the other prisoner); I asked him the nearest way to the London-road; he was a stranger to me, and was merely walking with me to show me the nearest way." WILLIAM COOMBS (policeman, L 94)I know Smith by the name of Elliott, and Hardy by the name of Owens—I have known them for the last two years, and have seen them on several occasions together—I saw them on the 12th, about half-past twelve o'clock, in the Borough-road, and on the 14th in the Westminster-road; and I saw them together one night previous—Hardy lives at 63, Webber-row, and I have heard that he is the landlord of the house—he lives in the parlour—the whole house belongs to him—I have seen him go in and out of the parlour as I have passed, I should say two scores of times—a woman who goes by the name of Williams lives with him there—there are other parties in the house. Cross-examined. Q. Have you ever seen them together in the house? A. Yes; in the parlour; there is a bed in that room—I went there to search, and found 400 skeleton keys—I took him into custody; he was remanded for a week and discharged—I found pick-lock keys and dark-lanterns. SAMUEL BOOKER (policeman.) I produce a certificate—(read—Central Criminal Court; Edward Elliot convicted, July, 1848, of burglary, and confined one year)—I was present at the trial—Smith is the person. JOSEPH THOMPSON (policeman, F 11). I produce a certificate of Hardy's conviction at this court—(read—Thomas Owens, convicted June, 1839, and transported for seven years)—Hardy is the person. SMITH— GUILTY . Aged 25. HARDY— GUILTY * Aged 29. Transported for Ten Years.*	HARDY, Thomas (I2225)
513	Trial Transcript from The Old Bailey: EDWIN SMITH and THOMAS HARDY , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Mary Higgins, and stealing 4 coats, 1 pair of trowsers, 2 waistcoats, and 1 telescope, value 4l. 1s.; the goods of James Bull: 1 coat, 1 pair of trowsers, 2 waistcoats, and 1 handkerchief, 1l. 1s. 6d.; the goods of Edwin Bull; both having been before convicted. MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution. MARY HIGGINS . I am a widow, and live at 8, Oswell-place, Kennington-lane. On Wednesday, 16th Oct., I left the house about eight or nine o'clock in the morning; Mrs. Bull and her two sons, James and Edwin, live there—I left no one in the house—I returned on the Thursday morning, at ten—Mrs. Bull had given me the key, and I found the door on the single lock—I found a candle in the passage, and the back-door open—I found the doors open on the floor occupied by Mrs. Bull, and all the things in disorder, and the boxes broken open—I found Mrs. Bull at Kennington-lane, at her other house, where she was removing from—she had not removed all her furniture—she returned with me, and her sons afterwards came. JANE BULL . I live on the first-floor, at 8, Oswell-place, with my sons—they had some boxes in the back-room—on 16th Oct., I left the house about eight o'clock in the evening, leaving no one there—I left the doors in my apartments locked, and fastened the house up—the back-door was bolted, and I double-locked the front; I am quite certain of that—I took the key with me, and gave it to Mrs. Higgins—I did not return that night—in the morning Mrs. Higgins came to me, went in search of my sons, and then returned to the house—my sons went up to the back-room. JAMES BULL . I live with my mother and brother, at 8, Oswell-place, and occupy the back first-floor room—I and my brother had four or five boxes in that room, containing clothes—on 16th Oct., I left at eleven o'clock, leaving my mother there—the boxes were then packed up at one side of the room, and four of them were locked—I did not return till the Thursday, when my mother came for me—my brother arrived about five minutes before me—I went into the back room, and found the boxes in the middle of the room, all opened, and the contents scattered about the room—I examined them, and missed four coats, one pair of trowsers, two waistcoats, and a telescope, belonging to me, which I had seen on the Saturday before, but the boxes I saw safe on the Wednesday. EDWARD BULL . I live at 8, Oswell-place—I left on the Wednesday morning before eight o'clock, the boxes were then safe—on the following day I returned with my mother to the house about four in the afternoon; examined the back-room, found the boxes broken open, and things thrown about the place—I missed a silk handkerchief and waistcoat. CHARLES BURGESS GOFF ( policeman, L 8). On Wednesday night 16th Oct., shortly after eleven o'clock, I was with Garforth in Walcot-place, a short distance past the Ship, and met the prisoners together—I first saw them when they were ten feet in front of me—they came on towards me, and passed me—I had known them both upwards of twelvemonths—there was a light where I first saw them—I had a perfect view of them which caused me to look round, and I saw something bulky under Smith's coat on the right side—Hardy was on his left, they were in company and speaking—it was about twenty or twenty-five yards from Ship-lane—I have seen and examined this plan (produced) with the place, it is correct—I called the attention of Garforth to them, we turned and followed them—they had then got to the corner of Ship-lane, and we lost sight of them, and when we got in sight of them again they were running in the centre of Ship-lane as hard as they could—there are two lights at the corner of Ship-lane—they could not have turned down any other turning, there is none—we pursued them from Ship-lane down St. Mary-square, and they separated here (pointing it out)—Smith took the direction of Bird-street, and Hardy went across Lambeth-square into Walcot-square, which leads again into Bird-street—I ran after Hardy through St. Mary's-square, where he ran nearly close to the garden—there is an iron railing separating the square from the garden—when he was opposite the garden I saw him put his right arm, which was next the railing, up towards the railing near the gate—I was twenty or thirty yards from him, and continued to pursue him, calling, "Stop thief!"—he ran into Walcot-square, where I came up to him and found him in Edgar's custody, and Taylor came up at the same moment—I have not the slightest doubt he was the same person I had first seen and pursued—I directed them to take charge of him—I went round Bird-street, and found Smith in Garforth's custody—he had hold of him with his left hand, and had some clothes in his right—I took Smith to where I had left Hardy, and took them to the station—I found two coats on Smith over his own, and in his coat-pocket a telescope, a black silk waistcoat, and in his trowsers-pocket a blue silk handkerchief (produced)—the inspector on duty asked Hardy his address, and he gave 5, Martyn-street, Friar-street, Blackfriars-road—I know that he lived at 63, Webber-street, which is five or six minutes walk from the address he gave—about one o'clock the same morning I went to Webber-street, examined the front parlour where I had frequently seen Hardy, and in a drawer there I found these two pair of pliers (produced)—I have seen such in the possession of house-breakers—they are used for opening locks from the outside without noise—if a key is left inside in the lock, and the door closed, by inserting one of these in the key hole, and taking hold of the protruding part yon can turn the key—I also found six keys (produced), two of which have been partly filed—here is another key (produced) with a black composition on one side of it, which by turning it in a door would take an impression of the wards of the lock, and so enable another key to be made or part of this one filed off so as to make it fit—Mrs. Higgins's house is in the parish of St. Mary, Lambeth. Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How do you know the house in Webber-street is occupied by the prisoner? A. I have seen him go in and out twenty or thirty times in the last two or three months—I saw him the day previous to taking him—I believe he is the holder of the house, and the female there is his wife—Hardy ran on one side of the plantation, and Smith the other—I took Hardy about eight or ten minutes' walk from Mrs. Higgins, there was nothing found on him. Smith. Q. Did you ever see us together before? A. No. THOMAS GARFORTH (policeman, L 151). On the evening of 16th Oct., I was with Goff in Walcot-place, and saw the prisoners together, meeting us—I had known Hardy about twelve months, and Smith fifteen or sixteen months—I recognised them at once—Goff turned round as they passed, and spoke to me—there was a lamp about fifteen yards from where we met them—as Smith passed he was on the inner side, and I saw something bulky under his coat—we followed them—they turned down Ship-lane, and we next saw them in Ship-lane running—I had seen Hardy turn round at the corner of the lane, look towards me and Goff, and run on—we followed them into St. Mary's-square, where they separated—I followed Smith through the square on the left side—he ran near the plantation of the garden which is very wide there, at first, but as he got further he went to the centre of the road—I have seen the place where the coat was found by Atolee—I should say that is at least twenty yards from where Smith ran—I should say he could not have thrown it there—I saw him drop a coat, pair of trowsers, and waistcoat which I picked up—I continued to pursue him for about a hundred yards, when he dropped another waistcoat, which a man picked up and gave me—I came up to him in Bird-street, and he was in custody of a man named Richardson—I had called out the whole of the way I ran—Goff afterwards came up and took Smith away—we then retraced the route Smith had taken, and found this jemmy (produced) about fifty yards from where he was stopped—it was picked up by a man in my presence, and appeared to be warm as if it had recently come from a person's pocket—this skeleton key (produced) of which the wards have been filed away, was handed to me at the same time—I afterwards tried it to Mrs. Higgins's door, and it opened it without the slightest inconvenience—I was shown the boxes in the back room which had apparently been forced open, and the marks corresponded with this crowbar—these (produced) are some of the pieces of the boxes—I know that Hardy lived at 63, Webber-row—I have often seen him in and out of the house, and walking from the direction of it—I produce the clothes. WILLIAM ATLEE (policeman, L 4). On 16th Oct. I was sent by Goff to search the garden at 8, St Mary's-square, and I found this coat (produced) in the beginning of the square—there is an iron railing right round the square—it was about three yards from the railing on one side, and fifteen or more from the other, where Smith ran—there are several trees between. EDWIN BULL re-examined. This coat, blue handkerchief, and waistcoat, are mine. JAMES BULL re-examined. These four c oats, two waistcoasts, pair of trowsers, and telescope are mine, and worth 4l. and upwards—I had seen the telescope on the Saturday. (Smith's statement before the Magistrate was here read)—"I had been down the Brixton-road to see a friend; as I was returning, I turned down a turning to make water; I picked up a bundle down the turning, I opened it to see the contents of it; I carried the things openly for anybody to see them, I did not conceal them, in any way; going down the Kennington-road, just before we met the officers, I met this good man—(the other prisoner); I asked him the nearest way to the London-road; he was a stranger to me, and was merely walking with me to show me the nearest way." WILLIAM COOMBS (policeman, L 94)I know Smith by the name of Elliott, and Hardy by the name of Owens—I have known them for the last two years, and have seen them on several occasions together—I saw them on the 12th, about half-past twelve o'clock, in the Borough-road, and on the 14th in the Westminster-road; and I saw them together one night previous—Hardy lives at 63, Webber-row, and I have heard that he is the landlord of the house—he lives in the parlour—the whole house belongs to him—I have seen him go in and out of the parlour as I have passed, I should say two scores of times—a woman who goes by the name of Williams lives with him there—there are other parties in the house. Cross-examined. Q. Have you ever seen them together in the house? A. Yes; in the parlour; there is a bed in that room—I went there to search, and found 400 skeleton keys—I took him into custody; he was remanded for a week and discharged—I found pick-lock keys and dark-lanterns. SAMUEL BOOKER (policeman.) I produce a certificate—(read—Central Criminal Court; Edward Elliot convicted, July, 1848, of burglary, and confined one year)—I was present at the trial—Smith is the person. JOSEPH THOMPSON (policeman, F 11). I produce a certificate of Hardy's conviction at this court—(read—Thomas Owens, convicted June, 1839, and transported for seven years)—Hardy is the person. SMITH— GUILTY . Aged 25. HARDY— GUILTY * Aged 29. Transported for Ten Years.*	HARDY, Thomas (I2225)
514	Trial Transcript from The Old Bailey: EDWIN SMITH and THOMAS HARDY , breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Mary Higgins, and stealing 4 coats, 1 pair of trowsers, 2 waistcoats, and 1 telescope, value 4l. 1s.; the goods of James Bull: 1 coat, 1 pair of trowsers, 2 waistcoats, and 1 handkerchief, 1l. 1s. 6d.; the goods of Edwin Bull; both having been before convicted. MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution. MARY HIGGINS . I am a widow, and live at 8, Oswell-place, Kennington-lane. On Wednesday, 16th Oct., I left the house about eight or nine o'clock in the morning; Mrs. Bull and her two sons, James and Edwin, live there—I left no one in the house—I returned on the Thursday morning, at ten—Mrs. Bull had given me the key, and I found the door on the single lock—I found a candle in the passage, and the back-door open—I found the doors open on the floor occupied by Mrs. Bull, and all the things in disorder, and the boxes broken open—I found Mrs. Bull at Kennington-lane, at her other house, where she was removing from—she had not removed all her furniture—she returned with me, and her sons afterwards came. JANE BULL . I live on the first-floor, at 8, Oswell-place, with my sons—they had some boxes in the back-room—on 16th Oct., I left the house about eight o'clock in the evening, leaving no one there—I left the doors in my apartments locked, and fastened the house up—the back-door was bolted, and I double-locked the front; I am quite certain of that—I took the key with me, and gave it to Mrs. Higgins—I did not return that night—in the morning Mrs. Higgins came to me, went in search of my sons, and then returned to the house—my sons went up to the back-room. JAMES BULL . I live with my mother and brother, at 8, Oswell-place, and occupy the back first-floor room—I and my brother had four or five boxes in that room, containing clothes—on 16th Oct., I left at eleven o'clock, leaving my mother there—the boxes were then packed up at one side of the room, and four of them were locked—I did not return till the Thursday, when my mother came for me—my brother arrived about five minutes before me—I went into the back room, and found the boxes in the middle of the room, all opened, and the contents scattered about the room—I examined them, and missed four coats, one pair of trowsers, two waistcoats, and a telescope, belonging to me, which I had seen on the Saturday before, but the boxes I saw safe on the Wednesday. EDWARD BULL . I live at 8, Oswell-place—I left on the Wednesday morning before eight o'clock, the boxes were then safe—on the following day I returned with my mother to the house about four in the afternoon; examined the back-room, found the boxes broken open, and things thrown about the place—I missed a silk handkerchief and waistcoat. CHARLES BURGESS GOFF ( policeman, L 8). On Wednesday night 16th Oct., shortly after eleven o'clock, I was with Garforth in Walcot-place, a short distance past the Ship, and met the prisoners together—I first saw them when they were ten feet in front of me—they came on towards me, and passed me—I had known them both upwards of twelvemonths—there was a light where I first saw them—I had a perfect view of them which caused me to look round, and I saw something bulky under Smith's coat on the right side—Hardy was on his left, they were in company and speaking—it was about twenty or twenty-five yards from Ship-lane—I have seen and examined this plan (produced) with the place, it is correct—I called the attention of Garforth to them, we turned and followed them—they had then got to the corner of Ship-lane, and we lost sight of them, and when we got in sight of them again they were running in the centre of Ship-lane as hard as they could—there are two lights at the corner of Ship-lane—they could not have turned down any other turning, there is none—we pursued them from Ship-lane down St. Mary-square, and they separated here (pointing it out)—Smith took the direction of Bird-street, and Hardy went across Lambeth-square into Walcot-square, which leads again into Bird-street—I ran after Hardy through St. Mary's-square, where he ran nearly close to the garden—there is an iron railing separating the square from the garden—when he was opposite the garden I saw him put his right arm, which was next the railing, up towards the railing near the gate—I was twenty or thirty yards from him, and continued to pursue him, calling, "Stop thief!"—he ran into Walcot-square, where I came up to him and found him in Edgar's custody, and Taylor came up at the same moment—I have not the slightest doubt he was the same person I had first seen and pursued—I directed them to take charge of him—I went round Bird-street, and found Smith in Garforth's custody—he had hold of him with his left hand, and had some clothes in his right—I took Smith to where I had left Hardy, and took them to the station—I found two coats on Smith over his own, and in his coat-pocket a telescope, a black silk waistcoat, and in his trowsers-pocket a blue silk handkerchief (produced)—the inspector on duty asked Hardy his address, and he gave 5, Martyn-street, Friar-street, Blackfriars-road—I know that he lived at 63, Webber-street, which is five or six minutes walk from the address he gave—about one o'clock the same morning I went to Webber-street, examined the front parlour where I had frequently seen Hardy, and in a drawer there I found these two pair of pliers (produced)—I have seen such in the possession of house-breakers—they are used for opening locks from the outside without noise—if a key is left inside in the lock, and the door closed, by inserting one of these in the key hole, and taking hold of the protruding part yon can turn the key—I also found six keys (produced), two of which have been partly filed—here is another key (produced) with a black composition on one side of it, which by turning it in a door would take an impression of the wards of the lock, and so enable another key to be made or part of this one filed off so as to make it fit—Mrs. Higgins's house is in the parish of St. Mary, Lambeth. Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINE. Q. How do you know the house in Webber-street is occupied by the prisoner? A. I have seen him go in and out twenty or thirty times in the last two or three months—I saw him the day previous to taking him—I believe he is the holder of the house, and the female there is his wife—Hardy ran on one side of the plantation, and Smith the other—I took Hardy about eight or ten minutes' walk from Mrs. Higgins, there was nothing found on him. Smith. Q. Did you ever see us together before? A. No. THOMAS GARFORTH (policeman, L 151). On the evening of 16th Oct., I was with Goff in Walcot-place, and saw the prisoners together, meeting us—I had known Hardy about twelve months, and Smith fifteen or sixteen months—I recognised them at once—Goff turned round as they passed, and spoke to me—there was a lamp about fifteen yards from where we met them—as Smith passed he was on the inner side, and I saw something bulky under his coat—we followed them—they turned down Ship-lane, and we next saw them in Ship-lane running—I had seen Hardy turn round at the corner of the lane, look towards me and Goff, and run on—we followed them into St. Mary's-square, where they separated—I followed Smith through the square on the left side—he ran near the plantation of the garden which is very wide there, at first, but as he got further he went to the centre of the road—I have seen the place where the coat was found by Atolee—I should say that is at least twenty yards from where Smith ran—I should say he could not have thrown it there—I saw him drop a coat, pair of trowsers, and waistcoat which I picked up—I continued to pursue him for about a hundred yards, when he dropped another waistcoat, which a man picked up and gave me—I came up to him in Bird-street, and he was in custody of a man named Richardson—I had called out the whole of the way I ran—Goff afterwards came up and took Smith away—we then retraced the route Smith had taken, and found this jemmy (produced) about fifty yards from where he was stopped—it was picked up by a man in my presence, and appeared to be warm as if it had recently come from a person's pocket—this skeleton key (produced) of which the wards have been filed away, was handed to me at the same time—I afterwards tried it to Mrs. Higgins's door, and it opened it without the slightest inconvenience—I was shown the boxes in the back room which had apparently been forced open, and the marks corresponded with this crowbar—these (produced) are some of the pieces of the boxes—I know that Hardy lived at 63, Webber-row—I have often seen him in and out of the house, and walking from the direction of it—I produce the clothes. WILLIAM ATLEE (policeman, L 4). On 16th Oct. I was sent by Goff to search the garden at 8, St Mary's-square, and I found this coat (produced) in the beginning of the square—there is an iron railing right round the square—it was about three yards from the railing on one side, and fifteen or more from the other, where Smith ran—there are several trees between. EDWIN BULL re-examined. This coat, blue handkerchief, and waistcoat, are mine. JAMES BULL re-examined. These four c oats, two waistcoasts, pair of trowsers, and telescope are mine, and worth 4l. and upwards—I had seen the telescope on the Saturday. (Smith's statement before the Magistrate was here read)—"I had been down the Brixton-road to see a friend; as I was returning, I turned down a turning to make water; I picked up a bundle down the turning, I opened it to see the contents of it; I carried the things openly for anybody to see them, I did not conceal them, in any way; going down the Kennington-road, just before we met the officers, I met this good man—(the other prisoner); I asked him the nearest way to the London-road; he was a stranger to me, and was merely walking with me to show me the nearest way." WILLIAM COOMBS (policeman, L 94)I know Smith by the name of Elliott, and Hardy by the name of Owens—I have known them for the last two years, and have seen them on several occasions together—I saw them on the 12th, about half-past twelve o'clock, in the Borough-road, and on the 14th in the Westminster-road; and I saw them together one night previous—Hardy lives at 63, Webber-row, and I have heard that he is the landlord of the house—he lives in the parlour—the whole house belongs to him—I have seen him go in and out of the parlour as I have passed, I should say two scores of times—a woman who goes by the name of Williams lives with him there—there are other parties in the house. Cross-examined. Q. Have you ever seen them together in the house? A. Yes; in the parlour; there is a bed in that room—I went there to search, and found 400 skeleton keys—I took him into custody; he was remanded for a week and discharged—I found pick-lock keys and dark-lanterns. SAMUEL BOOKER (policeman.) I produce a certificate—(read—Central Criminal Court; Edward Elliot convicted, July, 1848, of burglary, and confined one year)—I was present at the trial—Smith is the person. JOSEPH THOMPSON (policeman, F 11). I produce a certificate of Hardy's conviction at this court—(read—Thomas Owens, convicted June, 1839, and transported for seven years)—Hardy is the person. SMITH— GUILTY . Aged 25. HARDY— GUILTY * Aged 29. Transported for Ten Years.*	SMITH, Edwin (I2226)
515	Trial transcript from the Old Bailey: GEORGE DAVIS, MARGARET M'CARTHY , and ANN WOOD , for a robbery upon John Byland, and stealing 1 watch, and other, articles, value 5l.; and 3 shillings; his property; and, before the said robbery, beating and striking him: Davis having been before convicted. MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution. JOHN BYLAND . I am a journeyman dyer—I live in Long-alley, Shoreditch. Between one and two o'clock on Saturday morning, 24th Feb., I was coming towards home—I had been drinking but very little; I knew what I was about—I met the two female prisoners in Whitechapel, went with them to a public-house, and had something there; and while we were there Davis and another man came in—they knew the females, and they had something to drink—I remained there two or three minutes, and then left with the females—Davis and his companion stopped a little while behind—they then followed us, I saw them walking behind us—when we came to George-street Davis gave me a blow on the right side of the head, which knocked me down—when I fell, the two girls held my hands, and Davis got on my chest with oil knees—I had a watch in a small watch-pocket in my waistcoat, a guard round my neck, and a small metal watch-key, which I used to carry in my pocket with my money—I had 4s. in money—while I was down, M'Carthy unbuttoned my waistcoat and coat, passed the watch-guard over my head, took my watch out of my pocket, and passed it to Wood—I called out, and struggled, and Davis said, "Let us murder the b—"—I got away, and met the policeman within two minutes—I told him What had happened, and returned with him to George-street—we saw M'Carthy against the door where it happened—I said, "That is one of the females"—we went up to her, and Davis was close by her—he said she was a respectable woman, and had been in his company all the evening—I told the policeman that I knew he was the man that knocked me down—I knew him by a scar on his cheek—he said he was not the man—I gave him in charge. Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were you perfectly sober? A. I was; I had had but two pints of ale the whole day—I had been to see a friend who was ill over at Lambeth—I staid there till past twelve o'clock—I came over London-bridge—I was not wandering about the streets—I was coming to Whitechapel—I have been married; I am not now—I had gone with the two females to treat them, and then they happened to be walking my way down George-street, into Commercial-street—I walked outside them, not between them—McCarthy was standing at the door of a house when I returned, and I said she was one of the women, then Davis came up, and I said that was the man—I told the policeman I should know him from a thousand, by a scar on his right cheek—I gave him in charge, and then I saw the scar—I did not know either of the prisoners before, yet I positively swear to them—Davis first said he had been with M'Carthy all the evening, and she was respectable; and then he said he had been asleep in a coffee-house till a quarter past two, and that he had been to buy some tobacco—he said I must be mistaken, for she was in his company a few minutes before—there was nothing found on him—I am sure Wood had the watch. McCarthy. Q. Had I a bonnet and shawl on when I was at the door? A. No, you had not—I do not know the sign of the public-house we went into in Whitechapel Wood. You know there was no one but you and I that went into the public-house; we came out, and in Thrawl-street you stood talking with me; the policeman came, and said to you, "You don't know what you are doing," and you walked away towards Whitechapel; I left you in Brick-lane. Witness. I took you and M'Carthy into the public-house, and I left it with you and her—I did not leave you in Brick-lane—Long-alley is down Commercial-street—one of Davis's statements was that he had been asleep in a coffee-house till past two o'clock. WILLIAM KING (policeman, A 416.) On Saturday morning, 24th Feb., I met the prosecutor at the corner of Wentworth-street, in consequence of what he said to me we went to George-street; we saw M'Carthy—he said, "This is one of the parties that has been robbing me"—I took her into custody, and while doing so, Davis came and said to the prosecutor, "You must be mistaken in this female, she has been in my company till within these few minutes"—the prosecutor then said, "This is one of the men who assisted in robbing me"—he had not before that given me any description of Davis but he then said there were two men, and one of the men had got a scar on his cheek, and after I got away to the light, I found Davis had got a scar on his cheek—the prosecutor had been drinking, but he knew what he was about; he talked reasonably. Cross-examined. Q. You saw he had been drinking? A. Yes; I have been over to the other side of the water; I do not know what business a man has in Whitechapel to go from Lambeth to Long Alley—it may be a mile out of his way—M'Carthy was standing openly at a door—I had not seen her there before. M'Carthy. Q. Was there not an officer who came and said I could not he the woman? A. He said he had seen you at your door; his name was Frost—he is now dismissed from the service. SAMUEL GRBEN (policeman, H 61). I took Wood into custody in a room which she occupies in Keate-street, Spitalfields—I found this common watch-key in a pail of dirty suds in the room—I took her between one and two o'clock in the morning, within half an hour or three-quarters of an hour of the robbery. Wood. Q. You saw me with the prosecutor; were either of these prisoners with me then? A. No; the prosecutor called me by name, and I told him he had better go home—you went up Brick-lane with him to get some more drink, and in ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour, I heard of the robbery, and went after you—Davis said he had been to the coffee-house—I went there, and found he had been there, and had gone out to buy some tobacco about a quarter-past one o'clock. JOHN BYLAND re-examined. This is the key I lost—it is a miscast, and has a mark on it—I am certain of it; M'Carthy had a bonnet and shawl on when she was with me. The prisoner Wood's statement before the Magistrate was read as follows: " The key the policeman found in my room has been there ever since I occupied the room; I was in the man's company, and drank with him in a public-house; there were only our two selves there; he treated the waiter to a glass of ale; he left with me, and was going home with me; he was going down the street, and then he said he would not go home, but if I liked to hare any more to drink I might." M'Carthy's Defence. I was standing at my own door, between one and two o'clock, and the officer came and took me. WILLIAM KINO re-examined. M'Carthy had no bonnet and shawl on at the door—it was not so light at the place where I took Davis that the prosecutor could see the scar in his face—there was not light enough to see it till I brought him to the gas lamp Witness for the Defence. WILLIAM THOMPSON . I was at the Britannia coffee-house, and saw Davis come in, about five minutes past eleven, and about a quarter-past two, be went out to buy some tobacco; he did not come back again; he got into custody; he was not out before he went to get the tobacco. cross-examined by MR. CAARTEEN. Q. What are you? A. A journeyman carpenter and joiner—I have worked for Mr. Burton, in Finsbury-square, for four months—I know the prisoner by seeing him in the coffee-house several times—there was another young man sitting in the next box to when I was; I cannot say who he was; there was only the waiter there that I know of the whole evening—the waiter has been here several days; he is not here to-day—I noticed the time when Davis came in, and it was a quarterp-ast two o'clock when he went out—the waiter came and awoke him up, and asked him for a pipe of tobacco—he said he had none, he would go and get some—I had no object in noticing the time—I do not notice the time when every one comes in. COURT. Q. What was he doing in the coffee-house? A. He came in there and had a cup of coffee, and as soon as he had had it he fell asleep—I am not aware that the waiter said it was a quarter-past one o'clock when he left. SAMUEL OREEN re-examined. I went to the waiter at the coffee-shop about half-past two—the waiter said he went out at a quarter-past one—the coffee-shop is about three hundred yards from George-street. WILLIAM KINO re-examined. Not two minutes elapsed from the time of the robbery to my taking M'Carthy into custody. DANIEL SUGGS (police-sergeant, H 17). I produce a certificate of Davis's former conviction at Clerkenwell—read—"Convicted May, 1842, and confined six months, six weeks of the time solitary"—he is the man. DAVIS— GUILTY . Aged 28. M'CARTHY— GUILTY . Aged 20. WOOD— GUILTY . Aged 24 Transported for Seven Years.	MCCARTHY, Margaret (I2178)
516	Trial transcript from the Old Bailey: GEORGE DAVIS, MARGARET M'CARTHY , and ANN WOOD , for a robbery upon John Byland, and stealing 1 watch, and other, articles, value 5l.; and 3 shillings; his property; and, before the said robbery, beating and striking him: Davis having been before convicted. MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution. JOHN BYLAND . I am a journeyman dyer—I live in Long-alley, Shoreditch. Between one and two o'clock on Saturday morning, 24th Feb., I was coming towards home—I had been drinking but very little; I knew what I was about—I met the two female prisoners in Whitechapel, went with them to a public-house, and had something there; and while we were there Davis and another man came in—they knew the females, and they had something to drink—I remained there two or three minutes, and then left with the females—Davis and his companion stopped a little while behind—they then followed us, I saw them walking behind us—when we came to George-street Davis gave me a blow on the right side of the head, which knocked me down—when I fell, the two girls held my hands, and Davis got on my chest with oil knees—I had a watch in a small watch-pocket in my waistcoat, a guard round my neck, and a small metal watch-key, which I used to carry in my pocket with my money—I had 4s. in money—while I was down, M'Carthy unbuttoned my waistcoat and coat, passed the watch-guard over my head, took my watch out of my pocket, and passed it to Wood—I called out, and struggled, and Davis said, "Let us murder the b—"—I got away, and met the policeman within two minutes—I told him What had happened, and returned with him to George-street—we saw M'Carthy against the door where it happened—I said, "That is one of the females"—we went up to her, and Davis was close by her—he said she was a respectable woman, and had been in his company all the evening—I told the policeman that I knew he was the man that knocked me down—I knew him by a scar on his cheek—he said he was not the man—I gave him in charge. Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were you perfectly sober? A. I was; I had had but two pints of ale the whole day—I had been to see a friend who was ill over at Lambeth—I staid there till past twelve o'clock—I came over London-bridge—I was not wandering about the streets—I was coming to Whitechapel—I have been married; I am not now—I had gone with the two females to treat them, and then they happened to be walking my way down George-street, into Commercial-street—I walked outside them, not between them—McCarthy was standing at the door of a house when I returned, and I said she was one of the women, then Davis came up, and I said that was the man—I told the policeman I should know him from a thousand, by a scar on his right cheek—I gave him in charge, and then I saw the scar—I did not know either of the prisoners before, yet I positively swear to them—Davis first said he had been with M'Carthy all the evening, and she was respectable; and then he said he had been asleep in a coffee-house till a quarter past two, and that he had been to buy some tobacco—he said I must be mistaken, for she was in his company a few minutes before—there was nothing found on him—I am sure Wood had the watch. McCarthy. Q. Had I a bonnet and shawl on when I was at the door? A. No, you had not—I do not know the sign of the public-house we went into in Whitechapel Wood. You know there was no one but you and I that went into the public-house; we came out, and in Thrawl-street you stood talking with me; the policeman came, and said to you, "You don't know what you are doing," and you walked away towards Whitechapel; I left you in Brick-lane. Witness. I took you and M'Carthy into the public-house, and I left it with you and her—I did not leave you in Brick-lane—Long-alley is down Commercial-street—one of Davis's statements was that he had been asleep in a coffee-house till past two o'clock. WILLIAM KING (policeman, A 416.) On Saturday morning, 24th Feb., I met the prosecutor at the corner of Wentworth-street, in consequence of what he said to me we went to George-street; we saw M'Carthy—he said, "This is one of the parties that has been robbing me"—I took her into custody, and while doing so, Davis came and said to the prosecutor, "You must be mistaken in this female, she has been in my company till within these few minutes"—the prosecutor then said, "This is one of the men who assisted in robbing me"—he had not before that given me any description of Davis but he then said there were two men, and one of the men had got a scar on his cheek, and after I got away to the light, I found Davis had got a scar on his cheek—the prosecutor had been drinking, but he knew what he was about; he talked reasonably. Cross-examined. Q. You saw he had been drinking? A. Yes; I have been over to the other side of the water; I do not know what business a man has in Whitechapel to go from Lambeth to Long Alley—it may be a mile out of his way—M'Carthy was standing openly at a door—I had not seen her there before. M'Carthy. Q. Was there not an officer who came and said I could not he the woman? A. He said he had seen you at your door; his name was Frost—he is now dismissed from the service. SAMUEL GRBEN (policeman, H 61). I took Wood into custody in a room which she occupies in Keate-street, Spitalfields—I found this common watch-key in a pail of dirty suds in the room—I took her between one and two o'clock in the morning, within half an hour or three-quarters of an hour of the robbery. Wood. Q. You saw me with the prosecutor; were either of these prisoners with me then? A. No; the prosecutor called me by name, and I told him he had better go home—you went up Brick-lane with him to get some more drink, and in ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour, I heard of the robbery, and went after you—Davis said he had been to the coffee-house—I went there, and found he had been there, and had gone out to buy some tobacco about a quarter-past one o'clock. JOHN BYLAND re-examined. This is the key I lost—it is a miscast, and has a mark on it—I am certain of it; M'Carthy had a bonnet and shawl on when she was with me. The prisoner Wood's statement before the Magistrate was read as follows: " The key the policeman found in my room has been there ever since I occupied the room; I was in the man's company, and drank with him in a public-house; there were only our two selves there; he treated the waiter to a glass of ale; he left with me, and was going home with me; he was going down the street, and then he said he would not go home, but if I liked to hare any more to drink I might." M'Carthy's Defence. I was standing at my own door, between one and two o'clock, and the officer came and took me. WILLIAM KINO re-examined. M'Carthy had no bonnet and shawl on at the door—it was not so light at the place where I took Davis that the prosecutor could see the scar in his face—there was not light enough to see it till I brought him to the gas lamp Witness for the Defence. WILLIAM THOMPSON . I was at the Britannia coffee-house, and saw Davis come in, about five minutes past eleven, and about a quarter-past two, be went out to buy some tobacco; he did not come back again; he got into custody; he was not out before he went to get the tobacco. cross-examined by MR. CAARTEEN. Q. What are you? A. A journeyman carpenter and joiner—I have worked for Mr. Burton, in Finsbury-square, for four months—I know the prisoner by seeing him in the coffee-house several times—there was another young man sitting in the next box to when I was; I cannot say who he was; there was only the waiter there that I know of the whole evening—the waiter has been here several days; he is not here to-day—I noticed the time when Davis came in, and it was a quarterp-ast two o'clock when he went out—the waiter came and awoke him up, and asked him for a pipe of tobacco—he said he had none, he would go and get some—I had no object in noticing the time—I do not notice the time when every one comes in. COURT. Q. What was he doing in the coffee-house? A. He came in there and had a cup of coffee, and as soon as he had had it he fell asleep—I am not aware that the waiter said it was a quarter-past one o'clock when he left. SAMUEL OREEN re-examined. I went to the waiter at the coffee-shop about half-past two—the waiter said he went out at a quarter-past one—the coffee-shop is about three hundred yards from George-street. WILLIAM KINO re-examined. Not two minutes elapsed from the time of the robbery to my taking M'Carthy into custody. DANIEL SUGGS (police-sergeant, H 17). I produce a certificate of Davis's former conviction at Clerkenwell—read—"Convicted May, 1842, and confined six months, six weeks of the time solitary"—he is the man. DAVIS— GUILTY . Aged 28. M'CARTHY— GUILTY . Aged 20. WOOD— GUILTY . Aged 24 Transported for Seven Years.	WOOD, Ann (I2179)
517	Trial transcript from the Old Bailey: GEORGE DAVIS, MARGARET M'CARTHY , and ANN WOOD , for a robbery upon John Byland, and stealing 1 watch, and other, articles, value 5l.; and 3 shillings; his property; and, before the said robbery, beating and striking him: Davis having been before convicted. MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution. JOHN BYLAND . I am a journeyman dyer—I live in Long-alley, Shoreditch. Between one and two o'clock on Saturday morning, 24th Feb., I was coming towards home—I had been drinking but very little; I knew what I was about—I met the two female prisoners in Whitechapel, went with them to a public-house, and had something there; and while we were there Davis and another man came in—they knew the females, and they had something to drink—I remained there two or three minutes, and then left with the females—Davis and his companion stopped a little while behind—they then followed us, I saw them walking behind us—when we came to George-street Davis gave me a blow on the right side of the head, which knocked me down—when I fell, the two girls held my hands, and Davis got on my chest with oil knees—I had a watch in a small watch-pocket in my waistcoat, a guard round my neck, and a small metal watch-key, which I used to carry in my pocket with my money—I had 4s. in money—while I was down, M'Carthy unbuttoned my waistcoat and coat, passed the watch-guard over my head, took my watch out of my pocket, and passed it to Wood—I called out, and struggled, and Davis said, "Let us murder the b—"—I got away, and met the policeman within two minutes—I told him What had happened, and returned with him to George-street—we saw M'Carthy against the door where it happened—I said, "That is one of the females"—we went up to her, and Davis was close by her—he said she was a respectable woman, and had been in his company all the evening—I told the policeman that I knew he was the man that knocked me down—I knew him by a scar on his cheek—he said he was not the man—I gave him in charge. Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were you perfectly sober? A. I was; I had had but two pints of ale the whole day—I had been to see a friend who was ill over at Lambeth—I staid there till past twelve o'clock—I came over London-bridge—I was not wandering about the streets—I was coming to Whitechapel—I have been married; I am not now—I had gone with the two females to treat them, and then they happened to be walking my way down George-street, into Commercial-street—I walked outside them, not between them—McCarthy was standing at the door of a house when I returned, and I said she was one of the women, then Davis came up, and I said that was the man—I told the policeman I should know him from a thousand, by a scar on his right cheek—I gave him in charge, and then I saw the scar—I did not know either of the prisoners before, yet I positively swear to them—Davis first said he had been with M'Carthy all the evening, and she was respectable; and then he said he had been asleep in a coffee-house till a quarter past two, and that he had been to buy some tobacco—he said I must be mistaken, for she was in his company a few minutes before—there was nothing found on him—I am sure Wood had the watch. McCarthy. Q. Had I a bonnet and shawl on when I was at the door? A. No, you had not—I do not know the sign of the public-house we went into in Whitechapel Wood. You know there was no one but you and I that went into the public-house; we came out, and in Thrawl-street you stood talking with me; the policeman came, and said to you, "You don't know what you are doing," and you walked away towards Whitechapel; I left you in Brick-lane. Witness. I took you and M'Carthy into the public-house, and I left it with you and her—I did not leave you in Brick-lane—Long-alley is down Commercial-street—one of Davis's statements was that he had been asleep in a coffee-house till past two o'clock. WILLIAM KING (policeman, A 416.) On Saturday morning, 24th Feb., I met the prosecutor at the corner of Wentworth-street, in consequence of what he said to me we went to George-street; we saw M'Carthy—he said, "This is one of the parties that has been robbing me"—I took her into custody, and while doing so, Davis came and said to the prosecutor, "You must be mistaken in this female, she has been in my company till within these few minutes"—the prosecutor then said, "This is one of the men who assisted in robbing me"—he had not before that given me any description of Davis but he then said there were two men, and one of the men had got a scar on his cheek, and after I got away to the light, I found Davis had got a scar on his cheek—the prosecutor had been drinking, but he knew what he was about; he talked reasonably. Cross-examined. Q. You saw he had been drinking? A. Yes; I have been over to the other side of the water; I do not know what business a man has in Whitechapel to go from Lambeth to Long Alley—it may be a mile out of his way—M'Carthy was standing openly at a door—I had not seen her there before. M'Carthy. Q. Was there not an officer who came and said I could not he the woman? A. He said he had seen you at your door; his name was Frost—he is now dismissed from the service. SAMUEL GRBEN (policeman, H 61). I took Wood into custody in a room which she occupies in Keate-street, Spitalfields—I found this common watch-key in a pail of dirty suds in the room—I took her between one and two o'clock in the morning, within half an hour or three-quarters of an hour of the robbery. Wood. Q. You saw me with the prosecutor; were either of these prisoners with me then? A. No; the prosecutor called me by name, and I told him he had better go home—you went up Brick-lane with him to get some more drink, and in ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour, I heard of the robbery, and went after you—Davis said he had been to the coffee-house—I went there, and found he had been there, and had gone out to buy some tobacco about a quarter-past one o'clock. JOHN BYLAND re-examined. This is the key I lost—it is a miscast, and has a mark on it—I am certain of it; M'Carthy had a bonnet and shawl on when she was with me. The prisoner Wood's statement before the Magistrate was read as follows: " The key the policeman found in my room has been there ever since I occupied the room; I was in the man's company, and drank with him in a public-house; there were only our two selves there; he treated the waiter to a glass of ale; he left with me, and was going home with me; he was going down the street, and then he said he would not go home, but if I liked to hare any more to drink I might." M'Carthy's Defence. I was standing at my own door, between one and two o'clock, and the officer came and took me. WILLIAM KINO re-examined. M'Carthy had no bonnet and shawl on at the door—it was not so light at the place where I took Davis that the prosecutor could see the scar in his face—there was not light enough to see it till I brought him to the gas lamp Witness for the Defence. WILLIAM THOMPSON . I was at the Britannia coffee-house, and saw Davis come in, about five minutes past eleven, and about a quarter-past two, be went out to buy some tobacco; he did not come back again; he got into custody; he was not out before he went to get the tobacco. cross-examined by MR. CAARTEEN. Q. What are you? A. A journeyman carpenter and joiner—I have worked for Mr. Burton, in Finsbury-square, for four months—I know the prisoner by seeing him in the coffee-house several times—there was another young man sitting in the next box to when I was; I cannot say who he was; there was only the waiter there that I know of the whole evening—the waiter has been here several days; he is not here to-day—I noticed the time when Davis came in, and it was a quarterp-ast two o'clock when he went out—the waiter came and awoke him up, and asked him for a pipe of tobacco—he said he had none, he would go and get some—I had no object in noticing the time—I do not notice the time when every one comes in. COURT. Q. What was he doing in the coffee-house? A. He came in there and had a cup of coffee, and as soon as he had had it he fell asleep—I am not aware that the waiter said it was a quarter-past one o'clock when he left. SAMUEL OREEN re-examined. I went to the waiter at the coffee-shop about half-past two—the waiter said he went out at a quarter-past one—the coffee-shop is about three hundred yards from George-street. WILLIAM KINO re-examined. Not two minutes elapsed from the time of the robbery to my taking M'Carthy into custody. DANIEL SUGGS (police-sergeant, H 17). I produce a certificate of Davis's former conviction at Clerkenwell—read—"Convicted May, 1842, and confined six months, six weeks of the time solitary"—he is the man. DAVIS— GUILTY . Aged 28. M'CARTHY— GUILTY . Aged 20. WOOD— GUILTY . Aged 24 Transported for Seven Years.	DAVIS, George (I2177)
518	Trial transcript from the Old Bailey: GEORGE DAVIS, MARGARET M'CARTHY , and ANN WOOD , for a robbery upon John Byland, and stealing 1 watch, and other, articles, value 5l.; and 3 shillings; his property; and, before the said robbery, beating and striking him: Davis having been before convicted. MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution. JOHN BYLAND . I am a journeyman dyer—I live in Long-alley, Shoreditch. Between one and two o'clock on Saturday morning, 24th Feb., I was coming towards home—I had been drinking but very little; I knew what I was about—I met the two female prisoners in Whitechapel, went with them to a public-house, and had something there; and while we were there Davis and another man came in—they knew the females, and they had something to drink—I remained there two or three minutes, and then left with the females—Davis and his companion stopped a little while behind—they then followed us, I saw them walking behind us—when we came to George-street Davis gave me a blow on the right side of the head, which knocked me down—when I fell, the two girls held my hands, and Davis got on my chest with oil knees—I had a watch in a small watch-pocket in my waistcoat, a guard round my neck, and a small metal watch-key, which I used to carry in my pocket with my money—I had 4s. in money—while I was down, M'Carthy unbuttoned my waistcoat and coat, passed the watch-guard over my head, took my watch out of my pocket, and passed it to Wood—I called out, and struggled, and Davis said, "Let us murder the b—"—I got away, and met the policeman within two minutes—I told him What had happened, and returned with him to George-street—we saw M'Carthy against the door where it happened—I said, "That is one of the females"—we went up to her, and Davis was close by her—he said she was a respectable woman, and had been in his company all the evening—I told the policeman that I knew he was the man that knocked me down—I knew him by a scar on his cheek—he said he was not the man—I gave him in charge. Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were you perfectly sober? A. I was; I had had but two pints of ale the whole day—I had been to see a friend who was ill over at Lambeth—I staid there till past twelve o'clock—I came over London-bridge—I was not wandering about the streets—I was coming to Whitechapel—I have been married; I am not now—I had gone with the two females to treat them, and then they happened to be walking my way down George-street, into Commercial-street—I walked outside them, not between them—McCarthy was standing at the door of a house when I returned, and I said she was one of the women, then Davis came up, and I said that was the man—I told the policeman I should know him from a thousand, by a scar on his right cheek—I gave him in charge, and then I saw the scar—I did not know either of the prisoners before, yet I positively swear to them—Davis first said he had been with M'Carthy all the evening, and she was respectable; and then he said he had been asleep in a coffee-house till a quarter past two, and that he had been to buy some tobacco—he said I must be mistaken, for she was in his company a few minutes before—there was nothing found on him—I am sure Wood had the watch. McCarthy. Q. Had I a bonnet and shawl on when I was at the door? A. No, you had not—I do not know the sign of the public-house we went into in Whitechapel Wood. You know there was no one but you and I that went into the public-house; we came out, and in Thrawl-street you stood talking with me; the policeman came, and said to you, "You don't know what you are doing," and you walked away towards Whitechapel; I left you in Brick-lane. Witness. I took you and M'Carthy into the public-house, and I left it with you and her—I did not leave you in Brick-lane—Long-alley is down Commercial-street—one of Davis's statements was that he had been asleep in a coffee-house till past two o'clock. WILLIAM KING (policeman, A 416.) On Saturday morning, 24th Feb., I met the prosecutor at the corner of Wentworth-street, in consequence of what he said to me we went to George-street; we saw M'Carthy—he said, "This is one of the parties that has been robbing me"—I took her into custody, and while doing so, Davis came and said to the prosecutor, "You must be mistaken in this female, she has been in my company till within these few minutes"—the prosecutor then said, "This is one of the men who assisted in robbing me"—he had not before that given me any description of Davis but he then said there were two men, and one of the men had got a scar on his cheek, and after I got away to the light, I found Davis had got a scar on his cheek—the prosecutor had been drinking, but he knew what he was about; he talked reasonably. Cross-examined. Q. You saw he had been drinking? A. Yes; I have been over to the other side of the water; I do not know what business a man has in Whitechapel to go from Lambeth to Long Alley—it may be a mile out of his way—M'Carthy was standing openly at a door—I had not seen her there before. M'Carthy. Q. Was there not an officer who came and said I could not he the woman? A. He said he had seen you at your door; his name was Frost—he is now dismissed from the service. SAMUEL GRBEN (policeman, H 61). I took Wood into custody in a room which she occupies in Keate-street, Spitalfields—I found this common watch-key in a pail of dirty suds in the room—I took her between one and two o'clock in the morning, within half an hour or three-quarters of an hour of the robbery. Wood. Q. You saw me with the prosecutor; were either of these prisoners with me then? A. No; the prosecutor called me by name, and I told him he had better go home—you went up Brick-lane with him to get some more drink, and in ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour, I heard of the robbery, and went after you—Davis said he had been to the coffee-house—I went there, and found he had been there, and had gone out to buy some tobacco about a quarter-past one o'clock. JOHN BYLAND re-examined. This is the key I lost—it is a miscast, and has a mark on it—I am certain of it; M'Carthy had a bonnet and shawl on when she was with me. The prisoner Wood's statement before the Magistrate was read as follows: " The key the policeman found in my room has been there ever since I occupied the room; I was in the man's company, and drank with him in a public-house; there were only our two selves there; he treated the waiter to a glass of ale; he left with me, and was going home with me; he was going down the street, and then he said he would not go home, but if I liked to hare any more to drink I might." M'Carthy's Defence. I was standing at my own door, between one and two o'clock, and the officer came and took me. WILLIAM KINO re-examined. M'Carthy had no bonnet and shawl on at the door—it was not so light at the place where I took Davis that the prosecutor could see the scar in his face—there was not light enough to see it till I brought him to the gas lamp Witness for the Defence. WILLIAM THOMPSON . I was at the Britannia coffee-house, and saw Davis come in, about five minutes past eleven, and about a quarter-past two, be went out to buy some tobacco; he did not come back again; he got into custody; he was not out before he went to get the tobacco. cross-examined by MR. CAARTEEN. Q. What are you? A. A journeyman carpenter and joiner—I have worked for Mr. Burton, in Finsbury-square, for four months—I know the prisoner by seeing him in the coffee-house several times—there was another young man sitting in the next box to when I was; I cannot say who he was; there was only the waiter there that I know of the whole evening—the waiter has been here several days; he is not here to-day—I noticed the time when Davis came in, and it was a quarterp-ast two o'clock when he went out—the waiter came and awoke him up, and asked him for a pipe of tobacco—he said he had none, he would go and get some—I had no object in noticing the time—I do not notice the time when every one comes in. COURT. Q. What was he doing in the coffee-house? A. He came in there and had a cup of coffee, and as soon as he had had it he fell asleep—I am not aware that the waiter said it was a quarter-past one o'clock when he left. SAMUEL OREEN re-examined. I went to the waiter at the coffee-shop about half-past two—the waiter said he went out at a quarter-past one—the coffee-shop is about three hundred yards from George-street. WILLIAM KINO re-examined. Not two minutes elapsed from the time of the robbery to my taking M'Carthy into custody. DANIEL SUGGS (police-sergeant, H 17). I produce a certificate of Davis's former conviction at Clerkenwell—read—"Convicted May, 1842, and confined six months, six weeks of the time solitary"—he is the man. DAVIS— GUILTY . Aged 28. M'CARTHY— GUILTY . Aged 20. WOOD— GUILTY . Aged 24 Transported for Seven Years.	MCCARTHY, Margaret (I2178)
519	Trial transcript from the Old Bailey: GEORGE DAVIS, MARGARET M'CARTHY , and ANN WOOD , for a robbery upon John Byland, and stealing 1 watch, and other, articles, value 5l.; and 3 shillings; his property; and, before the said robbery, beating and striking him: Davis having been before convicted. MR. CAARTEEN conducted the Prosecution. JOHN BYLAND . I am a journeyman dyer—I live in Long-alley, Shoreditch. Between one and two o'clock on Saturday morning, 24th Feb., I was coming towards home—I had been drinking but very little; I knew what I was about—I met the two female prisoners in Whitechapel, went with them to a public-house, and had something there; and while we were there Davis and another man came in—they knew the females, and they had something to drink—I remained there two or three minutes, and then left with the females—Davis and his companion stopped a little while behind—they then followed us, I saw them walking behind us—when we came to George-street Davis gave me a blow on the right side of the head, which knocked me down—when I fell, the two girls held my hands, and Davis got on my chest with oil knees—I had a watch in a small watch-pocket in my waistcoat, a guard round my neck, and a small metal watch-key, which I used to carry in my pocket with my money—I had 4s. in money—while I was down, M'Carthy unbuttoned my waistcoat and coat, passed the watch-guard over my head, took my watch out of my pocket, and passed it to Wood—I called out, and struggled, and Davis said, "Let us murder the b—"—I got away, and met the policeman within two minutes—I told him What had happened, and returned with him to George-street—we saw M'Carthy against the door where it happened—I said, "That is one of the females"—we went up to her, and Davis was close by her—he said she was a respectable woman, and had been in his company all the evening—I told the policeman that I knew he was the man that knocked me down—I knew him by a scar on his cheek—he said he was not the man—I gave him in charge. Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Were you perfectly sober? A. I was; I had had but two pints of ale the whole day—I had been to see a friend who was ill over at Lambeth—I staid there till past twelve o'clock—I came over London-bridge—I was not wandering about the streets—I was coming to Whitechapel—I have been married; I am not now—I had gone with the two females to treat them, and then they happened to be walking my way down George-street, into Commercial-street—I walked outside them, not between them—McCarthy was standing at the door of a house when I returned, and I said she was one of the women, then Davis came up, and I said that was the man—I told the policeman I should know him from a thousand, by a scar on his right cheek—I gave him in charge, and then I saw the scar—I did not know either of the prisoners before, yet I positively swear to them—Davis first said he had been with M'Carthy all the evening, and she was respectable; and then he said he had been asleep in a coffee-house till a quarter past two, and that he had been to buy some tobacco—he said I must be mistaken, for she was in his company a few minutes before—there was nothing found on him—I am sure Wood had the watch. McCarthy. Q. Had I a bonnet and shawl on when I was at the door? A. No, you had not—I do not know the sign of the public-house we went into in Whitechapel Wood. You know there was no one but you and I that went into the public-house; we came out, and in Thrawl-street you stood talking with me; the policeman came, and said to you, "You don't know what you are doing," and you walked away towards Whitechapel; I left you in Brick-lane. Witness. I took you and M'Carthy into the public-house, and I left it with you and her—I did not leave you in Brick-lane—Long-alley is down Commercial-street—one of Davis's statements was that he had been asleep in a coffee-house till past two o'clock. WILLIAM KING (policeman, A 416.) On Saturday morning, 24th Feb., I met the prosecutor at the corner of Wentworth-street, in consequence of what he said to me we went to George-street; we saw M'Carthy—he said, "This is one of the parties that has been robbing me"—I took her into custody, and while doing so, Davis came and said to the prosecutor, "You must be mistaken in this female, she has been in my company till within these few minutes"—the prosecutor then said, "This is one of the men who assisted in robbing me"—he had not before that given me any description of Davis but he then said there were two men, and one of the men had got a scar on his cheek, and after I got away to the light, I found Davis had got a scar on his cheek—the prosecutor had been drinking, but he knew what he was about; he talked reasonably. Cross-examined. Q. You saw he had been drinking? A. Yes; I have been over to the other side of the water; I do not know what business a man has in Whitechapel to go from Lambeth to Long Alley—it may be a mile out of his way—M'Carthy was standing openly at a door—I had not seen her there before. M'Carthy. Q. Was there not an officer who came and said I could not he the woman? A. He said he had seen you at your door; his name was Frost—he is now dismissed from the service. SAMUEL GRBEN (policeman, H 61). I took Wood into custody in a room which she occupies in Keate-street, Spitalfields—I found this common watch-key in a pail of dirty suds in the room—I took her between one and two o'clock in the morning, within half an hour or three-quarters of an hour of the robbery. Wood. Q. You saw me with the prosecutor; were either of these prisoners with me then? A. No; the prosecutor called me by name, and I told him he had better go home—you went up Brick-lane with him to get some more drink, and in ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour, I heard of the robbery, and went after you—Davis said he had been to the coffee-house—I went there, and found he had been there, and had gone out to buy some tobacco about a quarter-past one o'clock. JOHN BYLAND re-examined. This is the key I lost—it is a miscast, and has a mark on it—I am certain of it; M'Carthy had a bonnet and shawl on when she was with me. The prisoner Wood's statement before the Magistrate was read as follows: " The key the policeman found in my room has been there ever since I occupied the room; I was in the man's company, and drank with him in a public-house; there were only our two selves there; he treated the waiter to a glass of ale; he left with me, and was going home with me; he was going down the street, and then he said he would not go home, but if I liked to hare any more to drink I might." M'Carthy's Defence. I was standing at my own door, between one and two o'clock, and the officer came and took me. WILLIAM KINO re-examined. M'Carthy had no bonnet and shawl on at the door—it was not so light at the place where I took Davis that the prosecutor could see the scar in his face—there was not light enough to see it till I brought him to the gas lamp Witness for the Defence. WILLIAM THOMPSON . I was at the Britannia coffee-house, and saw Davis come in, about five minutes past eleven, and about a quarter-past two, be went out to buy some tobacco; he did not come back again; he got into custody; he was not out before he went to get the tobacco. cross-examined by MR. CAARTEEN. Q. What are you? A. A journeyman carpenter and joiner—I have worked for Mr. Burton, in Finsbury-square, for four months—I know the prisoner by seeing him in the coffee-house several times—there was another young man sitting in the next box to when I was; I cannot say who he was; there was only the waiter there that I know of the whole evening—the waiter has been here several days; he is not here to-day—I noticed the time when Davis came in, and it was a quarterp-ast two o'clock when he went out—the waiter came and awoke him up, and asked him for a pipe of tobacco—he said he had none, he would go and get some—I had no object in noticing the time—I do not notice the time when every one comes in. COURT. Q. What was he doing in the coffee-house? A. He came in there and had a cup of coffee, and as soon as he had had it he fell asleep—I am not aware that the waiter said it was a quarter-past one o'clock when he left. SAMUEL OREEN re-examined. I went to the waiter at the coffee-shop about half-past two—the waiter said he went out at a quarter-past one—the coffee-shop is about three hundred yards from George-street. WILLIAM KINO re-examined. Not two minutes elapsed from the time of the robbery to my taking M'Carthy into custody. DANIEL SUGGS (police-sergeant, H 17). I produce a certificate of Davis's former conviction at Clerkenwell—read—"Convicted May, 1842, and confined six months, six weeks of the time solitary"—he is the man. DAVIS— GUILTY . Aged 28. M'CARTHY— GUILTY . Aged 20. WOOD— GUILTY . Aged 24 Transported for Seven Years.	WOOD, Ann (I2179)
520	Trial Transcript from The Old Bailey: JAMES CORNISH, JAMES WELCH, JANE WELCH , and ELIZABETH LOVELL , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Pitman, and stealing 1 cream-jug, 1 toast-rack, 24 forks, 24 knives, 18 spoons, and other articles, value 14l. 6s.; his goods: and 1 coat, and 1 case of mathematical instruments, 2l. 13s.; the goods of Ebenezer Pitman; to which CORNISH pleaded GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Ten Years. MR. PLATT conducted the Prosecution. LYDIA OLDHAK . I am in the service of Mr. John Pitman, of 9, Grove-place, in the parish of St. John, Hackney. On the night of 14th Dec. the family went to bed at a quarter-past ten o'clock—before that I had seen that the house was secure—I came down next morning about half-past six, and found both the dining-room doors open, and the kitchen door also, and fastened back with a weight—I found the back kitchen window-bar down, and taken away—that window was shut the night before, and the bar up—I found some desks and boxes about the house, open, which were not so the night before—I found the front kitchen cupboard doors open, the drawers half open, and a tea-caddy open—I missed some knives and forks, a toast-rack, a silver milk-jug, n silver butter-knife, and four coats, from the hall, worth between 20l. and 30l.—the coats (produced) are my master's. Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How many persons live in the house? A. Ten; when I went to bed I left Mr. Ebenezer Pitman, who is here, and two young ladies up—it was half-past six o'clock exactly when I came down—there is a clock in the hall. THOMAS KELLY (policeman, H 2). On Sunday, 15th Dec, in consequence of information, I went to No. 1, George-court, George-street, Spitalfields, with Green and Barnes—the door was open, and the prisoner Lovell admitted us into a room on the top-floor, and we found Cornish there in bed—I told him, in Lovell's presence, I suspected he had got stolen property, and that we were police—he said he had none—Lovell asked me to allow her to go out of the room as she was in her night-dress—I allowed her, followed her, and she made her escape—I came back to the room, and found this toast-rack broken up, and this silk twist (produced)—in consequence of something I heard there I afterwards went with Barnes to a court in Harriet-street—Barnes knocked at the shutter, and I heard a person inside say, "Who is there?"—I believe it was James Welch's voice—Barnes said, "It is me; Cornish is in custody," or "nailed, you must be up and be off"—some one, I believe Welch, then said, "Wait a moment till the door is open"—the door was then opened by Jane Welch, and I went in and found James Welch in bed on the floor—I told him, in the woman's presence, we were police-constables, and he must consider himself in custody, and I had come to search for property—he said, "What property?"—I said, "White-handled knives and forks"—he said, "I have got none"—Jane Welch asked me to allow her to dress herself as she was in her night-dress—I followed her into the passage leaving Barnes with James Welch, and when I came back Barnes produced some knives and forks, a life-preserver, and a great many things—I then took them both to the station, and on the way James Welch said he had bought the knives and forks that morning in Petticoat-lane, and as to the silver spoon he hoped he might be transported for life for he knew nothing of it—he said, "It is a regular sell"—the prisoner Lovell is the woman I found at Cornish's house. Cross-examined. Q. You mean the woman who opened the door when you found Cornish in bed? A, Yes. THOMAS GREEN (policeman, H 136). On Sunday night, the 15th, between nine and ten o'clock, I went with Kelly and Barnes, to 1, George-court, and found Lovell there, and also Cornish in bed—under the mattress of the bed I found this case of mathematical instruments (produced). THOMAS BARNES (policeman, H 88). I went with Kelly and Green to Cornish's house—I found five knives and four forks in his room, and a coat which he said was his—in the table-drawer I found a German silver spoon, and a small book—after taking him to the station, we went to Welch's, and found James Welch in bed—in a box at the head of the bed, I found six knives, four forks, and a silver spoon, and between the bed and mattress I found a life-preserver—I also found a small screw-driver. Cross-examined. Q. Are things sold in Petticoat-lane a good deal of a Sunday morning? A. Yes; there is a sort of open market there—they are chiefly Jews, and sell on Sundays. WILLIAM TRIGGS (policeman, N 287). I produce a pair of boots, some blades of knives and forks, a boy's coat, a fork with a silver handle, and a large centre-bit (produced), which I picked up about seven o'clock on Sunday morning, 15th Dec, in a garden about thirty yards from Mr. Pitman's. THOMAS KELLY re-examined. I found this chisel (produced) on the table at Welch's house—I have compared it with the marks on this desk (produced), and find a dent in the chisel, it is not quite even, and that corresponds exactly with the mark—I have had the chisel in my possession ever since—there were six desks broken open, and they all appear to have been done in the same manner—this is the only one here. Cross-examined. Q. When did you first make the comparison? A. This morning—the robbery was away from our division—we had nothing to do with it, but taking them into custody. EBENEZER PITMAN . I reside with my father, Mr. John Pitman—one of those coats belongs to me, and the other is my brother's—this case of mathematical instruments is mine, and on the night in question was in my desk which was broken open—I was in the front kitchen about twelve o'clock that night, and left it quite safe—I did not go into the back kitchen—every one else had then gone to bed—I did not open any of the windows or drawers—the two young ladies had been gone up some time. LYDIA OLDHAM re-examined. These knives and forks, and all this property is my master's, and was safe on the night in question—the spoon is marked, and the knives and forks have been rather worked—I used to clean them. JANE WELCH, ELIZABETH LOVELL— NOT GUILTY . JAMES WELCH— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Ten Years.*	WELCH, James (I2167)
521	Trial Transcript from The Old Bailey: JAMES CORNISH, JAMES WELCH, JANE WELCH , and ELIZABETH LOVELL , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Pitman, and stealing 1 cream-jug, 1 toast-rack, 24 forks, 24 knives, 18 spoons, and other articles, value 14l. 6s.; his goods: and 1 coat, and 1 case of mathematical instruments, 2l. 13s.; the goods of Ebenezer Pitman; to which CORNISH pleaded GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Ten Years. MR. PLATT conducted the Prosecution. LYDIA OLDHAK . I am in the service of Mr. John Pitman, of 9, Grove-place, in the parish of St. John, Hackney. On the night of 14th Dec. the family went to bed at a quarter-past ten o'clock—before that I had seen that the house was secure—I came down next morning about half-past six, and found both the dining-room doors open, and the kitchen door also, and fastened back with a weight—I found the back kitchen window-bar down, and taken away—that window was shut the night before, and the bar up—I found some desks and boxes about the house, open, which were not so the night before—I found the front kitchen cupboard doors open, the drawers half open, and a tea-caddy open—I missed some knives and forks, a toast-rack, a silver milk-jug, n silver butter-knife, and four coats, from the hall, worth between 20l. and 30l.—the coats (produced) are my master's. Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How many persons live in the house? A. Ten; when I went to bed I left Mr. Ebenezer Pitman, who is here, and two young ladies up—it was half-past six o'clock exactly when I came down—there is a clock in the hall. THOMAS KELLY (policeman, H 2). On Sunday, 15th Dec, in consequence of information, I went to No. 1, George-court, George-street, Spitalfields, with Green and Barnes—the door was open, and the prisoner Lovell admitted us into a room on the top-floor, and we found Cornish there in bed—I told him, in Lovell's presence, I suspected he had got stolen property, and that we were police—he said he had none—Lovell asked me to allow her to go out of the room as she was in her night-dress—I allowed her, followed her, and she made her escape—I came back to the room, and found this toast-rack broken up, and this silk twist (produced)—in consequence of something I heard there I afterwards went with Barnes to a court in Harriet-street—Barnes knocked at the shutter, and I heard a person inside say, "Who is there?"—I believe it was James Welch's voice—Barnes said, "It is me; Cornish is in custody," or "nailed, you must be up and be off"—some one, I believe Welch, then said, "Wait a moment till the door is open"—the door was then opened by Jane Welch, and I went in and found James Welch in bed on the floor—I told him, in the woman's presence, we were police-constables, and he must consider himself in custody, and I had come to search for property—he said, "What property?"—I said, "White-handled knives and forks"—he said, "I have got none"—Jane Welch asked me to allow her to dress herself as she was in her night-dress—I followed her into the passage leaving Barnes with James Welch, and when I came back Barnes produced some knives and forks, a life-preserver, and a great many things—I then took them both to the station, and on the way James Welch said he had bought the knives and forks that morning in Petticoat-lane, and as to the silver spoon he hoped he might be transported for life for he knew nothing of it—he said, "It is a regular sell"—the prisoner Lovell is the woman I found at Cornish's house. Cross-examined. Q. You mean the woman who opened the door when you found Cornish in bed? A, Yes. THOMAS GREEN (policeman, H 136). On Sunday night, the 15th, between nine and ten o'clock, I went with Kelly and Barnes, to 1, George-court, and found Lovell there, and also Cornish in bed—under the mattress of the bed I found this case of mathematical instruments (produced). THOMAS BARNES (policeman, H 88). I went with Kelly and Green to Cornish's house—I found five knives and four forks in his room, and a coat which he said was his—in the table-drawer I found a German silver spoon, and a small book—after taking him to the station, we went to Welch's, and found James Welch in bed—in a box at the head of the bed, I found six knives, four forks, and a silver spoon, and between the bed and mattress I found a life-preserver—I also found a small screw-driver. Cross-examined. Q. Are things sold in Petticoat-lane a good deal of a Sunday morning? A. Yes; there is a sort of open market there—they are chiefly Jews, and sell on Sundays. WILLIAM TRIGGS (policeman, N 287). I produce a pair of boots, some blades of knives and forks, a boy's coat, a fork with a silver handle, and a large centre-bit (produced), which I picked up about seven o'clock on Sunday morning, 15th Dec, in a garden about thirty yards from Mr. Pitman's. THOMAS KELLY re-examined. I found this chisel (produced) on the table at Welch's house—I have compared it with the marks on this desk (produced), and find a dent in the chisel, it is not quite even, and that corresponds exactly with the mark—I have had the chisel in my possession ever since—there were six desks broken open, and they all appear to have been done in the same manner—this is the only one here. Cross-examined. Q. When did you first make the comparison? A. This morning—the robbery was away from our division—we had nothing to do with it, but taking them into custody. EBENEZER PITMAN . I reside with my father, Mr. John Pitman—one of those coats belongs to me, and the other is my brother's—this case of mathematical instruments is mine, and on the night in question was in my desk which was broken open—I was in the front kitchen about twelve o'clock that night, and left it quite safe—I did not go into the back kitchen—every one else had then gone to bed—I did not open any of the windows or drawers—the two young ladies had been gone up some time. LYDIA OLDHAM re-examined. These knives and forks, and all this property is my master's, and was safe on the night in question—the spoon is marked, and the knives and forks have been rather worked—I used to clean them. JANE WELCH, ELIZABETH LOVELL— NOT GUILTY . JAMES WELCH— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Ten Years.*	CORNISH, James (I2166)
522	Trial Transcript from The Old Bailey: JAMES CORNISH, JAMES WELCH, JANE WELCH , and ELIZABETH LOVELL , burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Pitman, and stealing 1 cream-jug, 1 toast-rack, 24 forks, 24 knives, 18 spoons, and other articles, value 14l. 6s.; his goods: and 1 coat, and 1 case of mathematical instruments, 2l. 13s.; the goods of Ebenezer Pitman; to which CORNISH pleaded GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Ten Years. MR. PLATT conducted the Prosecution. LYDIA OLDHAK . I am in the service of Mr. John Pitman, of 9, Grove-place, in the parish of St. John, Hackney. On the night of 14th Dec. the family went to bed at a quarter-past ten o'clock—before that I had seen that the house was secure—I came down next morning about half-past six, and found both the dining-room doors open, and the kitchen door also, and fastened back with a weight—I found the back kitchen window-bar down, and taken away—that window was shut the night before, and the bar up—I found some desks and boxes about the house, open, which were not so the night before—I found the front kitchen cupboard doors open, the drawers half open, and a tea-caddy open—I missed some knives and forks, a toast-rack, a silver milk-jug, n silver butter-knife, and four coats, from the hall, worth between 20l. and 30l.—the coats (produced) are my master's. Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. How many persons live in the house? A. Ten; when I went to bed I left Mr. Ebenezer Pitman, who is here, and two young ladies up—it was half-past six o'clock exactly when I came down—there is a clock in the hall. THOMAS KELLY (policeman, H 2). On Sunday, 15th Dec, in consequence of information, I went to No. 1, George-court, George-street, Spitalfields, with Green and Barnes—the door was open, and the prisoner Lovell admitted us into a room on the top-floor, and we found Cornish there in bed—I told him, in Lovell's presence, I suspected he had got stolen property, and that we were police—he said he had none—Lovell asked me to allow her to go out of the room as she was in her night-dress—I allowed her, followed her, and she made her escape—I came back to the room, and found this toast-rack broken up, and this silk twist (produced)—in consequence of something I heard there I afterwards went with Barnes to a court in Harriet-street—Barnes knocked at the shutter, and I heard a person inside say, "Who is there?"—I believe it was James Welch's voice—Barnes said, "It is me; Cornish is in custody," or "nailed, you must be up and be off"—some one, I believe Welch, then said, "Wait a moment till the door is open"—the door was then opened by Jane Welch, and I went in and found James Welch in bed on the floor—I told him, in the woman's presence, we were police-constables, and he must consider himself in custody, and I had come to search for property—he said, "What property?"—I said, "White-handled knives and forks"—he said, "I have got none"—Jane Welch asked me to allow her to dress herself as she was in her night-dress—I followed her into the passage leaving Barnes with James Welch, and when I came back Barnes produced some knives and forks, a life-preserver, and a great many things—I then took them both to the station, and on the way James Welch said he had bought the knives and forks that morning in Petticoat-lane, and as to the silver spoon he hoped he might be transported for life for he knew nothing of it—he said, "It is a regular sell"—the prisoner Lovell is the woman I found at Cornish's house. Cross-examined. Q. You mean the woman who opened the door when you found Cornish in bed? A, Yes. THOMAS GREEN (policeman, H 136). On Sunday night, the 15th, between nine and ten o'clock, I went with Kelly and Barnes, to 1, George-court, and found Lovell there, and also Cornish in bed—under the mattress of the bed I found this case of mathematical instruments (produced). THOMAS BARNES (policeman, H 88). I went with Kelly and Green to Cornish's house—I found five knives and four forks in his room, and a coat which he said was his—in the table-drawer I found a German silver spoon, and a small book—after taking him to the station, we went to Welch's, and found James Welch in bed—in a box at the head of the bed, I found six knives, four forks, and a silver spoon, and between the bed and mattress I found a life-preserver—I also found a small screw-driver. Cross-examined. Q. Are things sold in Petticoat-lane a good deal of a Sunday morning? A. Yes; there is a sort of open market there—they are chiefly Jews, and sell on Sundays. WILLIAM TRIGGS (policeman, N 287). I produce a pair of boots, some blades of knives and forks, a boy's coat, a fork with a silver handle, and a large centre-bit (produced), which I picked up about seven o'clock on Sunday morning, 15th Dec, in a garden about thirty yards from Mr. Pitman's. THOMAS KELLY re-examined. I found this chisel (produced) on the table at Welch's house—I have compared it with the marks on this desk (produced), and find a dent in the chisel, it is not quite even, and that corresponds exactly with the mark—I have had the chisel in my possession ever since—there were six desks broken open, and they all appear to have been done in the same manner—this is the only one here. Cross-examined. Q. When did you first make the comparison? A. This morning—the robbery was away from our division—we had nothing to do with it, but taking them into custody. EBENEZER PITMAN . I reside with my father, Mr. John Pitman—one of those coats belongs to me, and the other is my brother's—this case of mathematical instruments is mine, and on the night in question was in my desk which was broken open—I was in the front kitchen about twelve o'clock that night, and left it quite safe—I did not go into the back kitchen—every one else had then gone to bed—I did not open any of the windows or drawers—the two young ladies had been gone up some time. LYDIA OLDHAM re-examined. These knives and forks, and all this property is my master's, and was safe on the night in question—the spoon is marked, and the knives and forks have been rather worked—I used to clean them. JANE WELCH, ELIZABETH LOVELL— NOT GUILTY . JAMES WELCH— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Ten Years.*	WELCH, James (I2167)
523	Trial Transcript from The Old Bailey: RICHARD HAMMETT DRAKE , embezzling 5l. and 80l.; the moneys of Abraham Wildey Robarts and others, his masters. MESSRS. BODKIN and HUDDLESTON conducted the Prosecution. EDGAR PITT NUNN . I am clerk to Messrs. Dixon, Brooks, and Co., bankers, of Chancery-lane. On 18th Oct., in consequence of instructions, I went to Robarts, Curtis, and Co.'s, and paid 5l. in the country office, to the credit of Stuckey and Co., of Wellington—I do not know how I paid it, or to whom—I received a receipt; I do not know whether it was from the person to whom I paid the money. HARRY BROWN . I am a clerk in the house of Coutts and Co., bankers. On 19th Oct. I paid 80l. on account of the Bristol bank, and fifteen guineas on account of the Cheltenham bank, into Robarts', between twelve and one o'clock—the receipt is signed "R. H. Drake"—I paid it in his department, but it does not follow that I should pay him the money—I cannot say whether I saw the prisoner—the notes comprising the 80l. were two 30l.-notes, Nos. 54792 and 54793; and one 20l., No. 73333—the 15l. consisted of a 5l. note, No. 19733; and 10l. 15s., in gold and silver—I took no account of the dates in this book—I received the 30l.-notes from Currie and Co., the 20l.-note from the town department of Robarts', and the 5l.-note from Willis, Percival, and Co. EDWARD RAILTON . I am clerk to Currie and Co, bankers, of Cornhill. On 18th Oct. I paid Messrs. Coutts's clerk two 30l.-notes, Nos. 54792 and 54793, dated 7th May—I entered them in this book(produced). ROBERT MORRISS . I am a clerk in Robarts' town office. On 19th Oct. I paid a clerk of Messrs. Coutta a 20l.-note, No. 73333, 6th June, 1850. Cross-examined by MR. DIGBY SEYMOUR. Q. Who keeps the book? A. I do; the entries are in my own writing. JOHN CLEAVER GARDNER . I am clerk to Robarts, Curtis, and Co. Abraham Wildey Robarts is the head partner; there are others—I am in the country department—the prisoner was cashier in that department—it was his duty to receive payments for country banks, and to sign checks for the amounts—I believe these checks of Courts' to be in his writing, and in two cases the filling up as well as the signature—this book (produced) has entries of mine—by looking at it I am able to say that I was there on 18th Oct.—I do not remember seeing a clerk from Dixon's that day—no one was receiving money in the country department that day but me and the prisoner—I received money from about twelve o'clock—if the prisoner received 5l. that day on account of Stuckey, Wellington bank, it would be his duty to place it in a drawer near me, with a ticket of the particulars on whose account it was received, and for what bank—money received is always placed in the same drawer—it would be my duty to enter from that drawer the particulars of the country transactions—I keep two books for convenience—I find no account of 18l. received for Stuckey's bank on 18th Oct., or at any time—the prisoner was on duty on 19th—if he received 80l. for the Bristol bank, and fifteen guineas for the Cheltenham bank, it would be his duty to place them in the drawer—I find here an account of the fifteen guineas received from Messrs. Coutts, on account of Mr. Southwood with the Cheltenham bank—here is the ticket I copied it from(produced)—it is in the prisoner's writing—I find no account of the 80l. paid in at the same time from the same house—no other person was doing anything as to the receipt of money in my department after twelve or one o'clock on 19th Oct.—we sometimes have a clerk from another department to assist after twelve o'clock, when I go to a different part of the house, but all the entries on the 19th are in my writing—we have an agreement balance every twenty-one days. Cross-examined. Q. How many clerks are there in that department? A. Eleven; every clerk who receives money, puts it into that drawer—it is open—the country office opens at nine, and I come in a few minutes before twelve—sums of money would be put into that drawer by the other clerks between nine and twelve—it then becomes my duty to enter the sums—I find them in the cash-book. MR. BODKIN. Q. Is the drawer part of any desk? A. It is in my desk—the prisoner sat next to me, and the drawer was between us, but nearer me than him—several, but not all, the clerks would have to go to it. CHARLES OVINGTON . I am a clerk in Robarts' house—the prisoner was there on 21st, but he has not returned since—the general agreement-day was the 22nd, when we should see whether the cash-books and ledgers agreed. Cross-examined. Q. You suspected nothing next day from his absence? A. No; he was ill the night before. CHARLES ELLS . I am a clerk in Robarts and Co.'s town office—I have a 30l.-note, No. 54792, dated 7th May, 1850, entered in this book—I changed it for the prisoner on 21st Oct., and gave him thirty sovereigns—he told me he wanted it for his cousin, and to put his cousin's initials to it—I knew his cousin and did so. Cross-examined. Q. Do you know when the prisoner's salary would be due? A. On 1st Oct.—I think it is nearly 150l. a year. RICHARD FRY . I keep the Grapes, Strand—I have had business transactions with the prisoner. On 21st Oct., between eight and half-past nine, he brought a 30l.-note to me to change—I had not sufficient in the house, and sent my servant Allen out for it—he returned with it, and I gave it to the prisoner. WILLIAM ALLEN . Mr. Fry gave me a 30l.-note to get changed—I took it to Messrs. Eve and Pythian, who gave it me, and I took it back. JOHN OVERY EVE . I am a grocer, of the Strand—Allen brought me this 30l.-note, 54793, 7th May, 1850—here is my writing on it—I changed it for him. WILLIAM BAKER . I am a tailor, of Clement's-lane, Lombard-street—I supply the prisoner with clothes. On the 21st Oct. he was in my debt—he called and bought an overcoat—he gave me this 20l.-note 73333, June 6, 1850, and told me to place it to his account—I wrote his name on it. JOHN FORRESTER . I took the prisoner into custody in James-street, Clerkenwell, on 31st Oct., at the house of a person named Brown—I do not know where the prisoner lives. Cross-examined. Q. You took him to the house of a friend of his? A. I understood so. (The checks were here read.) MR SEYMOUR submitted that as it was not the prisoner's duty to account for money, but only to place it in a drawer, no felony had been committed. The COURT overruled the objection. GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Ten Years. (There were three other indictments against the prisoner.)	DRAKE, Richard Hammett (I2187)
524	Trial Transcript from The Old Bailey: THOMAS CYRIL ALEXANDER DAVID , stealing 1 victorine, and 1 pair of cuffs, value 5l. 10s.; the goods of Peter Poland and another, his masters: also, 1 shawl, and other goods, 6l.: also 37 yards of velvet, value 38l. 10s.: and 1 shawl, value 18s. 6d.; the goods of Charles Dennis Sisly: to which he pleaded GUILTY . Aged 23.— Judgment Respited.	DAVID, Thomas Cyril Alexander (I2175)
525	Trial Transcript from The Old Bailey: WILLIAM DOYLE stealing 1 pair of boots, value 18s.; the goods of Stephen Robinson Heath: having been before convicted. JOHN BAKER I am in the employ of Stephen Robinson Heath, shoe, maker, of Giltspur-street. I heard a noise in the window, went to the door, and in consequence of what a woman told me I went after the prisoner, and took him with these boots secreted under his coat—they are my master's—he had no business with them. WILLIAM HART (City-policeman, 427). I produce a certificate—(read—William Ochiltree, convicted Jan., 1849, and confined four months)—the prisoner is the person. GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Year.	DOYLE, William (I2188)
526	Two previous convictions, one for a Felony, the other for Fishing	PICKERING, John (I1965)
527	UK Prison records and Newspaper reports put Williams date of birth as being about 1833. Australian Convict records record it as being about 1831. Not sure if he stated he was older or not.	SEARLE, William (I2020)
528	{ to Eastern Colonies in 1855 per 'Daphne' with wife and 2 children )	JOHNSTON, William (I3045)

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