Australian Convict Ship Project
Genealogical Research into the Crew, Convicts and other Passengers travelling on Ships to Australia during the convict era.
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| 51 | Old Bailey Court Transcript: GEORGE MATTHEWS, THOMAS SMITH , and ANN TRAYLING , stealing 24 yards of cloth, value 16s. 6d.; the goods of George Thomas Minor: Matthews and Trayling having been before convicted: to which MATTHEWS pleaded GUILTY .**† Aged 20 TRAYLING pleaded GUILTY .*† Aged 19 Transported for Seven Years. JOSHUA REYNOLDS . I am shopman to George Thomas Minor. On 16th May we had this woollen cloth (produced) safe inside the shop. JOSEPH HEDINGTON (City-policeman, 20). I was with Haydon, and followed the prisoners from the London-road to Westminster-road—Matthews and Trayling went to Mr. Minor's, Smith went twenty or thirty yards further up and watched; they went and spoke to him and returned-Matthews then took the ticket off the cloth, and Trayling took a piece of cloth, put it under her under, and went away—Smith was standing close by, and went away directly—they had been together very near half an hour, MICHAEL HAYDON (City-policeman, 21). I watched the prisoners together half an hour—I am certain Smith is the person. SMITH— GUILTY .* Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months | TRAYLING, Ann (I1917)
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| 52 | Old Bailey Court Transcript: GEORGE MATTHEWS, THOMAS SMITH , and ANN TRAYLING , stealing 24 yards of cloth, value 16s. 6d.; the goods of George Thomas Minor: Matthews and Trayling having been before convicted: to which MATTHEWS pleaded GUILTY .**† Aged 20 TRAYLING pleaded GUILTY .*† Aged 19 Transported for Seven Years. JOSHUA REYNOLDS . I am shopman to George Thomas Minor. On 16th May we had this woollen cloth (produced) safe inside the shop. JOSEPH HEDINGTON (City-policeman, 20). I was with Haydon, and followed the prisoners from the London-road to Westminster-road—Matthews and Trayling went to Mr. Minor's, Smith went twenty or thirty yards further up and watched; they went and spoke to him and returned-Matthews then took the ticket off the cloth, and Trayling took a piece of cloth, put it under her under, and went away—Smith was standing close by, and went away directly—they had been together very near half an hour, MICHAEL HAYDON (City-policeman, 21). I watched the prisoners together half an hour—I am certain Smith is the person. SMITH— GUILTY .* Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months | MATTHEWS, George (I1915)
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| 53 | Old Bailey Court Transcript: GEORGE MATTHEWS, THOMAS SMITH , and ANN TRAYLING , stealing 24 yards of cloth, value 16s. 6d.; the goods of George Thomas Minor: Matthews and Trayling having been before convicted: to which MATTHEWS pleaded GUILTY .**† Aged 20 TRAYLING pleaded GUILTY .*† Aged 19 Transported for Seven Years. JOSHUA REYNOLDS . I am shopman to George Thomas Minor. On 16th May we had this woollen cloth (produced) safe inside the shop. JOSEPH HEDINGTON (City-policeman, 20). I was with Haydon, and followed the prisoners from the London-road to Westminster-road—Matthews and Trayling went to Mr. Minor's, Smith went twenty or thirty yards further up and watched; they went and spoke to him and returned-Matthews then took the ticket off the cloth, and Trayling took a piece of cloth, put it under her under, and went away—Smith was standing close by, and went away directly—they had been together very near half an hour, MICHAEL HAYDON (City-policeman, 21). I watched the prisoners together half an hour—I am certain Smith is the person. SMITH— GUILTY .* Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months | SMITH, Thomas (I1916)
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| 54 | Old Bailey Court Transcript: GEORGE MATTHEWS, THOMAS SMITH , and ANN TRAYLING , stealing 24 yards of cloth, value 16s. 6d.; the goods of George Thomas Minor: Matthews and Trayling having been before convicted: to which MATTHEWS pleaded GUILTY .**† Aged 20 TRAYLING pleaded GUILTY .*† Aged 19 Transported for Seven Years. JOSHUA REYNOLDS . I am shopman to George Thomas Minor. On 16th May we had this woollen cloth (produced) safe inside the shop. JOSEPH HEDINGTON (City-policeman, 20). I was with Haydon, and followed the prisoners from the London-road to Westminster-road—Matthews and Trayling went to Mr. Minor's, Smith went twenty or thirty yards further up and watched; they went and spoke to him and returned-Matthews then took the ticket off the cloth, and Trayling took a piece of cloth, put it under her under, and went away—Smith was standing close by, and went away directly—they had been together very near half an hour, MICHAEL HAYDON (City-policeman, 21). I watched the prisoners together half an hour—I am certain Smith is the person. SMITH— GUILTY .* Aged 20.— Confined Nine Months | TRAYLING, Ann (I1917)
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| 55 | Old Bailey Court Transcript: JOHN MARKS , stealing 1 memorandum-hook, and 2 candlesticks, value 11s.; the goods of John Donken and others; having been before convicted. CHRISTIAN RUSSELL . I am single, and keep the British-school at Camberwell—Mr. John Donken is treasurer to the committee of the school, and a shareholder, and there are others—these candlesticks and books were on the mantelpiece in my school-room—I saw them safe on Friday night, 2d Feb., and missed them on Saturday afternoon; these are them. MARIA WALKER . At half-past three o'clock on Saturday afternoon, 3d Feb., I was looking out of window and saw three boys before the Britishschool—I told Miss Russell that I thought they were no good, and she went for a policeman—I watched and saw the prisoner, who was one of the boys, open the school-room window and get in—he and another handed these things to a bigger one outside—I went across the road—I saw two of them running—the prisoner threw this book down. Prisoner's Defence. I was coming down Coburg-road, and there was a policeman coming along; I passed three yards by him, and he hallooed out, "Stop thief!" I asked what he wanted me for; another policeman came up and gave me a punch on the head. ALFRED BONNARD (policeman, V 301). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction at Newington—(read Convicted Oct., 1846, transported for seven years)—the prisoner is the boy—he has been convicted summarily since then. GUILTY . Aged 15.— Transported for Seven Years. | MARKS, John (I1911)
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| 56 | Old Bailey Transcript: CHARLES ANDERSON and JOHN TRACEY , stealing 1 painting, value 2l.; the goods of Mary Ann Moore; Anderson having been twice before convicted, and Tracey having been once before convicted: to which TRACEY pleaded GUILTY .** Aged 24.— Transported for Seven Years. MICAIAH REED (policeman, E 108). On 9th Jan., about half-past six o'clock in the evening, I saw Anderson in Tottenham Court-road, in front of a shop, with his back against some railings—Tracey walked by on the opposite side—he crossed over and spoke to Anderson—they remained in conversation two or three minutes—Tracey then crossed the road, and Anderson followed him—they both went towards Mrs. Moore's shop—a wagon passed, and I did not see them—I saw them come away from the shop together—Tracey had this picture in his hand—I collared him, and said "What have you got here?"—he said, "You have got roe this time, Mr. Reed, and I am glad of it, because I am quite tired of the life I have been leading lately"—I took him to the station—I afterwards took Anderson at the Adam and Eve, Hampstead-road, and told him the charge—he said he knew nothing about it, and had not seen Tracey. JAMES MASON (policeman, S 168). I saw Tracey in Reed's custody. I met Anderson a few yards off—he went to the Adam and Eve—we took him. MARY ANN MOORE . I am a widow, and keep a shop in Tottenham Court-road. On 9th Jan. this picture was brought to me—it is mine—I had seen it safe ten minutes before. ROBERT SHARMAN (policeman). I produce a certificate of Anderson's conviction—(read—Charles Anderson convicted Sept. 1847. confined six months)—I was present—he is the person. EDWARD GARDNER . I produce a certificate—(read—Charles Goodwin, convicted May 1848, confined six months)—I was present—Anderson is the person. ANDERSON— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Yean. | ANDERSON, Charles (I2049)
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| 57 | Old Bailey Transcript: CHARLES ANDERSON and JOHN TRACEY , stealing 1 painting, value 2l.; the goods of Mary Ann Moore; Anderson having been twice before convicted, and Tracey having been once before convicted: to which TRACEY pleaded GUILTY .** Aged 24.— Transported for Seven Years. MICAIAH REED (policeman, E 108). On 9th Jan., about half-past six o'clock in the evening, I saw Anderson in Tottenham Court-road, in front of a shop, with his back against some railings—Tracey walked by on the opposite side—he crossed over and spoke to Anderson—they remained in conversation two or three minutes—Tracey then crossed the road, and Anderson followed him—they both went towards Mrs. Moore's shop—a wagon passed, and I did not see them—I saw them come away from the shop together—Tracey had this picture in his hand—I collared him, and said "What have you got here?"—he said, "You have got roe this time, Mr. Reed, and I am glad of it, because I am quite tired of the life I have been leading lately"—I took him to the station—I afterwards took Anderson at the Adam and Eve, Hampstead-road, and told him the charge—he said he knew nothing about it, and had not seen Tracey. JAMES MASON (policeman, S 168). I saw Tracey in Reed's custody. I met Anderson a few yards off—he went to the Adam and Eve—we took him. MARY ANN MOORE . I am a widow, and keep a shop in Tottenham Court-road. On 9th Jan. this picture was brought to me—it is mine—I had seen it safe ten minutes before. ROBERT SHARMAN (policeman). I produce a certificate of Anderson's conviction—(read—Charles Anderson convicted Sept. 1847. confined six months)—I was present—he is the person. EDWARD GARDNER . I produce a certificate—(read—Charles Goodwin, convicted May 1848, confined six months)—I was present—Anderson is the person. ANDERSON— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Yean. | TRACEY, John (I2048)
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| 58 | Old Bailey Transcript: CHARLES ANDERSON and JOHN TRACEY , stealing 1 painting, value 2l.; the goods of Mary Ann Moore; Anderson having been twice before convicted, and Tracey having been once before convicted: to which TRACEY pleaded GUILTY .** Aged 24.— Transported for Seven Years. MICAIAH REED (policeman, E 108). On 9th Jan., about half-past six o'clock in the evening, I saw Anderson in Tottenham Court-road, in front of a shop, with his back against some railings—Tracey walked by on the opposite side—he crossed over and spoke to Anderson—they remained in conversation two or three minutes—Tracey then crossed the road, and Anderson followed him—they both went towards Mrs. Moore's shop—a wagon passed, and I did not see them—I saw them come away from the shop together—Tracey had this picture in his hand—I collared him, and said "What have you got here?"—he said, "You have got roe this time, Mr. Reed, and I am glad of it, because I am quite tired of the life I have been leading lately"—I took him to the station—I afterwards took Anderson at the Adam and Eve, Hampstead-road, and told him the charge—he said he knew nothing about it, and had not seen Tracey. JAMES MASON (policeman, S 168). I saw Tracey in Reed's custody. I met Anderson a few yards off—he went to the Adam and Eve—we took him. MARY ANN MOORE . I am a widow, and keep a shop in Tottenham Court-road. On 9th Jan. this picture was brought to me—it is mine—I had seen it safe ten minutes before. ROBERT SHARMAN (policeman). I produce a certificate of Anderson's conviction—(read—Charles Anderson convicted Sept. 1847. confined six months)—I was present—he is the person. EDWARD GARDNER . I produce a certificate—(read—Charles Goodwin, convicted May 1848, confined six months)—I was present—Anderson is the person. ANDERSON— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Yean. | ANDERSON, Charles (I2049)
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| 59 | Old Bailey Transcript: CHARLES PAGE , stealing 1 painting and frame, value 10s.; the goods of Francis Samuel Carle; having been before convicted. FRANCIS SAMUEL CARLE . I am a carver and gilder, of Newington. On 11th Jan., about a quarter-past three o'clock in the afternoon, a constable came to me with the prisoner, and asked me whether he had purchased anything of me—I said, "No"—he then produced this painting, which I identified—I had seen it safe about an hour before. GEORGE WADEY (policeman, P 335). The prisoner was pointed out to me in the street, carrying this picture—I asked him what he had got—he said a picture he had bought in the Walworth-road—I asked him to show me the shop, and he did—I asked Mr. Carle if he had sold it him—he said he had not. EDWARD CLARK (policeman, P 152). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction—(read—Convicted May, 1848, confined three months, and whipped)—the prisoner is the person. GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years. | PAGE, Charles (I1948)
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| 60 | Old Bailey Transcript: FREDERICK JOHN THOMPSON and ALFRED BENJAMIN SPURGEON , feloniously forging and uttering an order for the delivery of goods, with intent to defraud Thomas Brandram and others; Thompson having been before convicted; to which THOMPSON pleaded GUILTY . Aged 44.— Transported for Seven Years. MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution. GEORGE JOHN WILLIAMS . I am clerk to Thomas Brandram and others, of Sise-lane. On 12th Sept. Spurgeon brought this order—(read—"Sept. 12—48. Messrs. Brandram, please deliver one bag of pale British vermillion for John Houghton ald Son. George Stevens")—I said, "Do you bring this order direct from Houghton's?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, I doubted it—he at last admitted that a man he met at the Post-office, who he had never seen before, employed him to get the goods—he gave such a description of the man as enabled a clerk to go and bring Thompson in, and Spurgeon said he was the man—Thompson admitted it. ROBERT JOHN STEVENS . I am clerk to James Houghton and Sons. This order is not my writing—I did not authorize it—I did not know Spurgeon—I had seen him on the 6th, when he brought me this order-(read,—"Messrs. Houghton, please deliver two gallons fine Lucca oil for H. J. Vice, Bermondsey, 6th Sept., 1848")—I asked if it was written by Mr. Vice—he said it was not, but by the party who employed him to bring it—I said I would send the goods—he said, "We want them very particularly"—I said I would rather send them—he took the bottle he had brought—I said, "We shall want that to send the oil in," and he left it. HENRY JAMES VICE I am an oil and colourman, of Bermondsey-square, Southwark, and deal with Messrs. Houghton—this order is not signed by me, or by my authority—I never sent for such oil, and never saw the prisoners before. WILLIAM FRANCIS HARMS . I am in the employ of Champion, Hankey, and Co., of the lead-works, Islington-fields-Spurgeon brought me this order—(read,—"One firkan of ground white lead for R. and D. Chambers. To Messrs. Champion and Co.")—I asked if they were busy—he said he had not been long there, and did not know what they called busy—I asked if one of Messrs. Chambers'did not travel—he said, "Yes"'—I gave him the lead—he took it away—this produced is it. THOMAS HELLNTON . I am clerk to Messrs. Chambers and Co., wholesale ironmongers, of Bishopsgate-street—we deal with Messrs. Hankey—this order is a forgery—I never saw Spurgeon. GEORGE DICKENSON . I am an oil and colourman, of Long-lane. on 9th Sept. I bought a keg of lead of Thompson—Messrs. Champion identified it. Spurqeon's Defence. Thompson sent me with the orders. SPURGEON— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Twelve Months. (There were three other indictments against the prisoners.) | SPURGEON, Alfred Benjamin (I2050)
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| 61 | Old Bailey Transcript: FREDERICK JOHN THOMPSON and ALFRED BENJAMIN SPURGEON , feloniously forging and uttering an order for the delivery of goods, with intent to defraud Thomas Brandram and others; Thompson having been before convicted; to which THOMPSON pleaded GUILTY . Aged 44.— Transported for Seven Years. MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution. GEORGE JOHN WILLIAMS . I am clerk to Thomas Brandram and others, of Sise-lane. On 12th Sept. Spurgeon brought this order—(read—"Sept. 12—48. Messrs. Brandram, please deliver one bag of pale British vermillion for John Houghton ald Son. George Stevens")—I said, "Do you bring this order direct from Houghton's?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, I doubted it—he at last admitted that a man he met at the Post-office, who he had never seen before, employed him to get the goods—he gave such a description of the man as enabled a clerk to go and bring Thompson in, and Spurgeon said he was the man—Thompson admitted it. ROBERT JOHN STEVENS . I am clerk to James Houghton and Sons. This order is not my writing—I did not authorize it—I did not know Spurgeon—I had seen him on the 6th, when he brought me this order-(read,—"Messrs. Houghton, please deliver two gallons fine Lucca oil for H. J. Vice, Bermondsey, 6th Sept., 1848")—I asked if it was written by Mr. Vice—he said it was not, but by the party who employed him to bring it—I said I would send the goods—he said, "We want them very particularly"—I said I would rather send them—he took the bottle he had brought—I said, "We shall want that to send the oil in," and he left it. HENRY JAMES VICE I am an oil and colourman, of Bermondsey-square, Southwark, and deal with Messrs. Houghton—this order is not signed by me, or by my authority—I never sent for such oil, and never saw the prisoners before. WILLIAM FRANCIS HARMS . I am in the employ of Champion, Hankey, and Co., of the lead-works, Islington-fields-Spurgeon brought me this order—(read,—"One firkan of ground white lead for R. and D. Chambers. To Messrs. Champion and Co.")—I asked if they were busy—he said he had not been long there, and did not know what they called busy—I asked if one of Messrs. Chambers'did not travel—he said, "Yes"'—I gave him the lead—he took it away—this produced is it. THOMAS HELLNTON . I am clerk to Messrs. Chambers and Co., wholesale ironmongers, of Bishopsgate-street—we deal with Messrs. Hankey—this order is a forgery—I never saw Spurgeon. GEORGE DICKENSON . I am an oil and colourman, of Long-lane. on 9th Sept. I bought a keg of lead of Thompson—Messrs. Champion identified it. Spurqeon's Defence. Thompson sent me with the orders. SPURGEON— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Twelve Months. (There were three other indictments against the prisoners.) | THOMPSON, Frederick John (I2041)
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| 62 | Old Bailey Transcript: FREDERICK JOHN THOMPSON and ALFRED BENJAMIN SPURGEON , feloniously forging and uttering an order for the delivery of goods, with intent to defraud Thomas Brandram and others; Thompson having been before convicted; to which THOMPSON pleaded GUILTY . Aged 44.— Transported for Seven Years. MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution. GEORGE JOHN WILLIAMS . I am clerk to Thomas Brandram and others, of Sise-lane. On 12th Sept. Spurgeon brought this order—(read—"Sept. 12—48. Messrs. Brandram, please deliver one bag of pale British vermillion for John Houghton ald Son. George Stevens")—I said, "Do you bring this order direct from Houghton's?"—he said, "Yes"—I said, I doubted it—he at last admitted that a man he met at the Post-office, who he had never seen before, employed him to get the goods—he gave such a description of the man as enabled a clerk to go and bring Thompson in, and Spurgeon said he was the man—Thompson admitted it. ROBERT JOHN STEVENS . I am clerk to James Houghton and Sons. This order is not my writing—I did not authorize it—I did not know Spurgeon—I had seen him on the 6th, when he brought me this order-(read,—"Messrs. Houghton, please deliver two gallons fine Lucca oil for H. J. Vice, Bermondsey, 6th Sept., 1848")—I asked if it was written by Mr. Vice—he said it was not, but by the party who employed him to bring it—I said I would send the goods—he said, "We want them very particularly"—I said I would rather send them—he took the bottle he had brought—I said, "We shall want that to send the oil in," and he left it. HENRY JAMES VICE I am an oil and colourman, of Bermondsey-square, Southwark, and deal with Messrs. Houghton—this order is not signed by me, or by my authority—I never sent for such oil, and never saw the prisoners before. WILLIAM FRANCIS HARMS . I am in the employ of Champion, Hankey, and Co., of the lead-works, Islington-fields-Spurgeon brought me this order—(read,—"One firkan of ground white lead for R. and D. Chambers. To Messrs. Champion and Co.")—I asked if they were busy—he said he had not been long there, and did not know what they called busy—I asked if one of Messrs. Chambers'did not travel—he said, "Yes"'—I gave him the lead—he took it away—this produced is it. THOMAS HELLNTON . I am clerk to Messrs. Chambers and Co., wholesale ironmongers, of Bishopsgate-street—we deal with Messrs. Hankey—this order is a forgery—I never saw Spurgeon. GEORGE DICKENSON . I am an oil and colourman, of Long-lane. on 9th Sept. I bought a keg of lead of Thompson—Messrs. Champion identified it. Spurqeon's Defence. Thompson sent me with the orders. SPURGEON— GUILTY . Aged 21.— Confined Twelve Months. (There were three other indictments against the prisoners.) | SPURGEON, Alfred Benjamin (I2050)
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| 63 | Old Bailey Transcript: FREDERICK RITTERSPACH , stealing whilst employed in the post-office, a post letter containing 2 half-sovereigns; the moneys and property of the P ostmaster General; to which he pleaded GUILTY . Aged 42.— Transported for Seven Years. | RITTERSPACK, Frederick Skuse (I1995)
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| 64 | Old Bailey Transcript: HENRY WILLIAM STORY and WALTER PALMER , stealing 5 spoons, and 1 fork, value 3l.; the goods of Harriet Magnay. MR. COOPER conducted the Prosecution. GEORGE BUCKTHORPE I am servant to Mrs. Harriet Magnay, of 67, Oxford-terrace. On Wednesday, 31st Jan., I carried the lunch to the dining-room at one o'clock—I carried on the tray four table spoons, four forks, two dessert spoons, a butter knife, and two salt spoons, all silver—at a little before two I went to dress, and while dressing I heard the street-door bell ring at about a quarter before two—I did not attend to it, Ann Grey the lady's maid did—that was the only bell that rung between one and two—it was my duty to attend to the door, except on particular occasions—at a little before two I went into the dining-room, and missed from the tray four table spoons, one dessert spoon, and a fork—the dining-room door is about six yards from the street-door, on the righthand side of the hall—I have not seen any of the things since. ANN GRAY I am lady's maid to Mrs. Magnay. On Wednesday, 31s., Jan., at a quarter before two o'clock, I heard the street-door bell ring—it was the duty of Buckthorpe to attend the door, but on that occasion he was dressing, and I went, and the prisoner Palmer entered—I am certain he is the man—he gave me this letter (produced)—he said it was for Mrs. Magnay, and he would wait for an answer—I asked him to sit down in the hall—I did not stay to see him sit down—I took the letter up-stairs, and gave it to Mrs. Magnay—I came down again in about fire minutes—he was then gone, and the front door was left open—he was dressed in a jacket and a cap—it is pretty light in our hall. Cross-examined by MR. BALLANTINZ Q. Did you look at him very attentively? A. I looked at him, and be looked at me—it was bnt a momentary glance, but I knew him again—I can swear to him—he has rather prominent features—I cannot say what sort of a cap he had on—it had no peak to it—he had a fustian jacket, I am sure it was not dark cloth—he looked to me like a helper in a stable—he was not at all dressed as he is now—I have said before that I was sure he was the man—I identified him as the man—I said that to all appearance he was the man—I believed it to be him—this is all I will say now—I saw him again at the police-court, and he put the cap on there when he was told to do so. Storey. Q. Are you quite positive that I am not the man that brought the letter? A. I have no recollection of you—I never saw you before I was at the office. WILLIAM SMITH (City-policeman, 244). I went to George-court, Fox-court, Gray's-inn, on 3d Feb., to apprehend Palmer—he resides at No. 1, there, and I have since heard he owns some houses there—he was up-stairs—I found in his house a pistol, a life-preserver, a watch, a round fustian jacket such as is used by persons in stables, and a cap—they were given up to the prisoner by the Magistrate's order. Cross-examined. Q. Palmer was admitted to bail? A. He was: when I searched his house I found a woman who represented herself as his wife, and an elderly woman and a man and a woman were these—I took the fustian jacket from the second-floor—Mrs. Palmer said that that floor belonged to her and her husband—that was after he was taken into custody—when he was taken he had a dark coat on and a hat—I told him the charge—he said be knew nothing of it. THOMAS HURDWICX (polke-sergeant, D 7). I produce a letter which I received from Mr. Hughes, the superintendent—I have also another letter—I went to the station-house when the prisoners were apprehended—I showed Storey the letter which had been delivered to the servant, Ann Grey, and he said it was his. Cross-examined. Q. Did he say who had delivered it? A. He did not—I did not ask him. WILLIAM FISHER (policeman, G 127). I apprehended Storey—I told him I wanted him for a robbery in Oxford-terrace—he said, "Very well." JOHN HUNT . I live at 6, George-court, Fox-court, in one of Mr. Palmer's houses—I know Storey—he lived in the same court, in one of Mr. Palmer's houses. On Wednesday, 31st Jan., I saw Storey in George-court—he asked me if I would go and have something to drink, and he said, "If you had been here just now you would have seen what I had"—I said, "What did you have?"—he said, "I had some plate not long ago"—he asked me to go and have a drop of gin, and I did, and he said, "I am off to get a sovereign to go to Kingston," and he went—I saw no more of him till next morning—I there said, "Where have you been?"—he said, "I have been sleeping at a coffee-shop over the water," and he said he sold the plate for 1l. 18s. 2d.—I afterwards received a letter from him—I do not know his writing, but I know it came from him because it came from Kingston, and he was gone there—I went to Kingston, when Mr. Palmer, my master, sent me there after Storey. Cross-examined. Q. Had you known Storey before? A. Yes, he used to lodge in the second-floor in one of Mr. Palmer's houses—Mr. Palmer keeps eight houses—I collect the rent of six of them—I have not seen Storey in a fustian jacket; I have seen him in a cap, and in a light coat, a sort of jean—Mr. Palmer is a coach-painter by trade—it was between two and three o'clock on the Wednesday that Storey spoke to me about the plate—I gave information when my master was taken up, and this letter having come from Kingston I went there after Storey. Storey. Did you hear anything of me? Witness. No, I did not. (The-letter delivered at Mrs. Magnay's was here read; it was signed "H. W. Storey," and solicited 2s. 6d., to purchase a pair of shoes.) STOREY— GUILTY as an accessory. Aged 39.— Transported for Seven Years. PALMER— NOT GUILTY | STOREY, William Henry (I2032)
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| 65 | Sheffield Independent - Saturday 03 March 1849: A GANG OF PIGEON STEALERS. GEORGE NEWTON, 30, ROBERT OGLE, 17, JOHN OGLE, 21, JOHN WILSON, and JOHN DRABBLE, were charged with Stealing 200 pigeons, the property of Mr. George Brooke, of Awkley, near Bawtry. Mr. Overend appeared for the prosecution ; Mr. Blanshard and Mr. Hardy defended the prisoners. The prosecutor's pigeon cotes were entered on the night of the 26th Jan., and out of 200, only three pigeons were left. No clue was obtained to the thieves for some days. It had been observed, however, by Mr. Bland, the High Constable of Rotherham, that a large pigeon hamper passed very frequently between the Masbro' station and Bawtry and Worksop, by the Pelham coach. In consequence of the great number of pigeon cotes which had been robbed in the neighbourhood within tbe last few months, he, on the 8th February, kept a look out for the " Pelham." On the arrival of the coach, at Rotherham, the mysterious hamper was seen at the top. Mr. Bland, with one of his officers, followed the coach to the Masbro' station, and saw the hamper transferred to the train in one of the carriages in which he seated himself. On arriving at Sheffield, and examining the hamper, it was found addressed to " Mr. J. Wilson, Hague Tree, Bernard street, Park," (one of the prisoners.) The hamper remained at the station near two hours ; but as no person called for it a porter was despatched with it to the house of the prisoner Wilson. Mr. Bland and his assistant followed, and immediately the hamper was delivered they entered the house. In one of the rooms they found the two Ogles, Newton, and Drabble, all of whom were dressed in velveteen shooting coats, with capacious pockets, and their appearance was such that they were apprehended on suspicion. The hamper, which was on the floor of the kitchen, was found to contain 103 pigeons. Wilson, the landlord of the house, said he had bought them of a man named Newton, at Bawtry. He denied all knowledge, however, of the four men who were in the adjoining room. On searching the pockets of the four men, there was found a quantity of lucifer matches and pigeon feathers on each of them. It being ascertained that Wilson had told an untruth in saying that he did not know Newton, he was apprehended and committed for trial with the others. The usual expedient was resorted to to discover the owners of the pigeons. Six were thrown up at Tickhill, and eight on Bawtry common, with a small piece of parchment tied with red tape round their necks, on which was written, "Apply to Mr. Bland, Rotherham." Four of these pigeons found their way to Mr. Brookes' cote, and the others to various cotes in the district, which bad been robbed within a short period. The charge was clearly established against the prisoner Newton and the two Ogles. It was proved that Newton had on several occasions met the coach at Bawtry to receive the hamper as it came empty from Sheffield, and had brought it filled with pigeons to be sent back to Sheffield. Early on the morning of the 8th February, (the day the hamper was followed by Mr. Bland,) Newton and the Ogles were seen carrying the hamper towards Bawtry, at the Angel Inn, in which town Newton afterwards left it with instructions that it was to go by the Pelham coach. Newton was next seen along with tbe Ogles, about two miles from Bawtry, on the Sheffield road, when the Pelham coach passed. It appears that there is on opposition conveyance, which runs over the same ground at the same time as the Pelham. On this morning, the Pelham passed tbe prisoners, and they then hailed the opposition coach, and came by it to Rotherham. They had gone by the train from that place, and were at Wilson's, ready to receive tbe hamper when delivered. It was further proved that these three prisoners had given false names and addresses, and that the two Ogles were seen near the prosecutor's farm on the day before the robbery. The only evidence against Drabble and Wilson, were the facts that the former was found in company with the other prisoners, and had feathers in his pocket and that the latter denied all knowledge of Drabble, Newton, and the two Ogles, when it was proved that both Drabble and Newton were well known to him, and that he had brought pigeons repeatedly of Newton, and sent the empty hampers several times by the coach to Bawtry, when it was received by Newton. On behalf of Drabble, it was stated that he had no connexion with the other prisoners. He accounted for feathers being found in his pocket by stating that he was a pigeon fancier, and they were the feathers of his own pigeons. Wilson, it also appeared, had been upstairs for some minutes before Mr. Bland entered his bouse, and was not aware that it was Newton, Ogle, and Drabble that Mr. Bland referred to when he asked if he knew the four men in the adjoining room. It also appeared that Wilson is blind. Under these circumstances, the learned Counsel for the prosecution withdrew the charge against Drabble and Wilson, and a verdict of Not Guilty was taken as against them. The other three prisoners were found Guilty by the Jury, and were each sentenced to be transported for the term of seven years. The Chairman, in passing sentence, remarked that there was no doubt they were a gang of pigeon stealers who had long infested the district. The prisoner, John Ogle, after sentence was passed, said his brother Robert had had no part in the robbery. The business of the session concluded about four o'clock on Tuesday | OGLE, John (I1941)
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| 66 | Sheffield Independent - Saturday 03 March 1849: A GANG OF PIGEON STEALERS. GEORGE NEWTON, 30, ROBERT OGLE, 17, JOHN OGLE, 21, JOHN WILSON, and JOHN DRABBLE, were charged with Stealing 200 pigeons, the property of Mr. George Brooke, of Awkley, near Bawtry. Mr. Overend appeared for the prosecution ; Mr. Blanshard and Mr. Hardy defended the prisoners. The prosecutor's pigeon cotes were entered on the night of the 26th Jan., and out of 200, only three pigeons were left. No clue was obtained to the thieves for some days. It had been observed, however, by Mr. Bland, the High Constable of Rotherham, that a large pigeon hamper passed very frequently between the Masbro' station and Bawtry and Worksop, by the Pelham coach. In consequence of the great number of pigeon cotes which had been robbed in the neighbourhood within tbe last few months, he, on the 8th February, kept a look out for the " Pelham." On the arrival of the coach, at Rotherham, the mysterious hamper was seen at the top. Mr. Bland, with one of his officers, followed the coach to the Masbro' station, and saw the hamper transferred to the train in one of the carriages in which he seated himself. On arriving at Sheffield, and examining the hamper, it was found addressed to " Mr. J. Wilson, Hague Tree, Bernard street, Park," (one of the prisoners.) The hamper remained at the station near two hours ; but as no person called for it a porter was despatched with it to the house of the prisoner Wilson. Mr. Bland and his assistant followed, and immediately the hamper was delivered they entered the house. In one of the rooms they found the two Ogles, Newton, and Drabble, all of whom were dressed in velveteen shooting coats, with capacious pockets, and their appearance was such that they were apprehended on suspicion. The hamper, which was on the floor of the kitchen, was found to contain 103 pigeons. Wilson, the landlord of the house, said he had bought them of a man named Newton, at Bawtry. He denied all knowledge, however, of the four men who were in the adjoining room. On searching the pockets of the four men, there was found a quantity of lucifer matches and pigeon feathers on each of them. It being ascertained that Wilson had told an untruth in saying that he did not know Newton, he was apprehended and committed for trial with the others. The usual expedient was resorted to to discover the owners of the pigeons. Six were thrown up at Tickhill, and eight on Bawtry common, with a small piece of parchment tied with red tape round their necks, on which was written, "Apply to Mr. Bland, Rotherham." Four of these pigeons found their way to Mr. Brookes' cote, and the others to various cotes in the district, which bad been robbed within a short period. The charge was clearly established against the prisoner Newton and the two Ogles. It was proved that Newton had on several occasions met the coach at Bawtry to receive the hamper as it came empty from Sheffield, and had brought it filled with pigeons to be sent back to Sheffield. Early on the morning of the 8th February, (the day the hamper was followed by Mr. Bland,) Newton and the Ogles were seen carrying the hamper towards Bawtry, at the Angel Inn, in which town Newton afterwards left it with instructions that it was to go by the Pelham coach. Newton was next seen along with tbe Ogles, about two miles from Bawtry, on the Sheffield road, when the Pelham coach passed. It appears that there is on opposition conveyance, which runs over the same ground at the same time as the Pelham. On this morning, the Pelham passed tbe prisoners, and they then hailed the opposition coach, and came by it to Rotherham. They had gone by the train from that place, and were at Wilson's, ready to receive tbe hamper when delivered. It was further proved that these three prisoners had given false names and addresses, and that the two Ogles were seen near the prosecutor's farm on the day before the robbery. The only evidence against Drabble and Wilson, were the facts that the former was found in company with the other prisoners, and had feathers in his pocket and that the latter denied all knowledge of Drabble, Newton, and the two Ogles, when it was proved that both Drabble and Newton were well known to him, and that he had brought pigeons repeatedly of Newton, and sent the empty hampers several times by the coach to Bawtry, when it was received by Newton. On behalf of Drabble, it was stated that he had no connexion with the other prisoners. He accounted for feathers being found in his pocket by stating that he was a pigeon fancier, and they were the feathers of his own pigeons. Wilson, it also appeared, had been upstairs for some minutes before Mr. Bland entered his bouse, and was not aware that it was Newton, Ogle, and Drabble that Mr. Bland referred to when he asked if he knew the four men in the adjoining room. It also appeared that Wilson is blind. Under these circumstances, the learned Counsel for the prosecution withdrew the charge against Drabble and Wilson, and a verdict of Not Guilty was taken as against them. The other three prisoners were found Guilty by the Jury, and were each sentenced to be transported for the term of seven years. The Chairman, in passing sentence, remarked that there was no doubt they were a gang of pigeon stealers who had long infested the district. The prisoner, John Ogle, after sentence was passed, said his brother Robert had had no part in the robbery. The business of the session concluded about four o'clock on Tuesday | OGLE, John (I1941)
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| 67 | Sheffield Independent - Saturday 03 March 1849: A GANG OF PIGEON STEALERS. GEORGE NEWTON, 30, ROBERT OGLE, 17, JOHN OGLE, 21, JOHN WILSON, and JOHN DRABBLE, were charged with Stealing 200 pigeons, the property of Mr. George Brooke, of Awkley, near Bawtry. Mr. Overend appeared for the prosecution ; Mr. Blanshard and Mr. Hardy defended the prisoners. The prosecutor's pigeon cotes were entered on the night of the 26th Jan., and out of 200, only three pigeons were left. No clue was obtained to the thieves for some days. It had been observed, however, by Mr. Bland, the High Constable of Rotherham, that a large pigeon hamper passed very frequently between the Masbro' station and Bawtry and Worksop, by the Pelham coach. In consequence of the great number of pigeon cotes which had been robbed in the neighbourhood within tbe last few months, he, on the 8th February, kept a look out for the " Pelham." On the arrival of the coach, at Rotherham, the mysterious hamper was seen at the top. Mr. Bland, with one of his officers, followed the coach to the Masbro' station, and saw the hamper transferred to the train in one of the carriages in which he seated himself. On arriving at Sheffield, and examining the hamper, it was found addressed to " Mr. J. Wilson, Hague Tree, Bernard street, Park," (one of the prisoners.) The hamper remained at the station near two hours ; but as no person called for it a porter was despatched with it to the house of the prisoner Wilson. Mr. Bland and his assistant followed, and immediately the hamper was delivered they entered the house. In one of the rooms they found the two Ogles, Newton, and Drabble, all of whom were dressed in velveteen shooting coats, with capacious pockets, and their appearance was such that they were apprehended on suspicion. The hamper, which was on the floor of the kitchen, was found to contain 103 pigeons. Wilson, the landlord of the house, said he had bought them of a man named Newton, at Bawtry. He denied all knowledge, however, of the four men who were in the adjoining room. On searching the pockets of the four men, there was found a quantity of lucifer matches and pigeon feathers on each of them. It being ascertained that Wilson had told an untruth in saying that he did not know Newton, he was apprehended and committed for trial with the others. The usual expedient was resorted to to discover the owners of the pigeons. Six were thrown up at Tickhill, and eight on Bawtry common, with a small piece of parchment tied with red tape round their necks, on which was written, "Apply to Mr. Bland, Rotherham." Four of these pigeons found their way to Mr. Brookes' cote, and the others to various cotes in the district, which bad been robbed within a short period. The charge was clearly established against the prisoner Newton and the two Ogles. It was proved that Newton had on several occasions met the coach at Bawtry to receive the hamper as it came empty from Sheffield, and had brought it filled with pigeons to be sent back to Sheffield. Early on the morning of the 8th February, (the day the hamper was followed by Mr. Bland,) Newton and the Ogles were seen carrying the hamper towards Bawtry, at the Angel Inn, in which town Newton afterwards left it with instructions that it was to go by the Pelham coach. Newton was next seen along with tbe Ogles, about two miles from Bawtry, on the Sheffield road, when the Pelham coach passed. It appears that there is on opposition conveyance, which runs over the same ground at the same time as the Pelham. On this morning, the Pelham passed tbe prisoners, and they then hailed the opposition coach, and came by it to Rotherham. They had gone by the train from that place, and were at Wilson's, ready to receive tbe hamper when delivered. It was further proved that these three prisoners had given false names and addresses, and that the two Ogles were seen near the prosecutor's farm on the day before the robbery. The only evidence against Drabble and Wilson, were the facts that the former was found in company with the other prisoners, and had feathers in his pocket and that the latter denied all knowledge of Drabble, Newton, and the two Ogles, when it was proved that both Drabble and Newton were well known to him, and that he had brought pigeons repeatedly of Newton, and sent the empty hampers several times by the coach to Bawtry, when it was received by Newton. On behalf of Drabble, it was stated that he had no connexion with the other prisoners. He accounted for feathers being found in his pocket by stating that he was a pigeon fancier, and they were the feathers of his own pigeons. Wilson, it also appeared, had been upstairs for some minutes before Mr. Bland entered his bouse, and was not aware that it was Newton, Ogle, and Drabble that Mr. Bland referred to when he asked if he knew the four men in the adjoining room. It also appeared that Wilson is blind. Under these circumstances, the learned Counsel for the prosecution withdrew the charge against Drabble and Wilson, and a verdict of Not Guilty was taken as against them. The other three prisoners were found Guilty by the Jury, and were each sentenced to be transported for the term of seven years. The Chairman, in passing sentence, remarked that there was no doubt they were a gang of pigeon stealers who had long infested the district. The prisoner, John Ogle, after sentence was passed, said his brother Robert had had no part in the robbery. The business of the session concluded about four o'clock on Tuesday | NEWTON, George (I1944)
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| 68 | Sheffield Independent - Saturday 03 March 1849: A GANG OF PIGEON STEALERS. GEORGE NEWTON, 30, ROBERT OGLE, 17, JOHN OGLE, 21, JOHN WILSON, and JOHN DRABBLE, were charged with Stealing 200 pigeons, the property of Mr. George Brooke, of Awkley, near Bawtry. Mr. Overend appeared for the prosecution ; Mr. Blanshard and Mr. Hardy defended the prisoners. The prosecutor's pigeon cotes were entered on the night of the 26th Jan., and out of 200, only three pigeons were left. No clue was obtained to the thieves for some days. It had been observed, however, by Mr. Bland, the High Constable of Rotherham, that a large pigeon hamper passed very frequently between the Masbro' station and Bawtry and Worksop, by the Pelham coach. In consequence of the great number of pigeon cotes which had been robbed in the neighbourhood within tbe last few months, he, on the 8th February, kept a look out for the " Pelham." On the arrival of the coach, at Rotherham, the mysterious hamper was seen at the top. Mr. Bland, with one of his officers, followed the coach to the Masbro' station, and saw the hamper transferred to the train in one of the carriages in which he seated himself. On arriving at Sheffield, and examining the hamper, it was found addressed to " Mr. J. Wilson, Hague Tree, Bernard street, Park," (one of the prisoners.) The hamper remained at the station near two hours ; but as no person called for it a porter was despatched with it to the house of the prisoner Wilson. Mr. Bland and his assistant followed, and immediately the hamper was delivered they entered the house. In one of the rooms they found the two Ogles, Newton, and Drabble, all of whom were dressed in velveteen shooting coats, with capacious pockets, and their appearance was such that they were apprehended on suspicion. The hamper, which was on the floor of the kitchen, was found to contain 103 pigeons. Wilson, the landlord of the house, said he had bought them of a man named Newton, at Bawtry. He denied all knowledge, however, of the four men who were in the adjoining room. On searching the pockets of the four men, there was found a quantity of lucifer matches and pigeon feathers on each of them. It being ascertained that Wilson had told an untruth in saying that he did not know Newton, he was apprehended and committed for trial with the others. The usual expedient was resorted to to discover the owners of the pigeons. Six were thrown up at Tickhill, and eight on Bawtry common, with a small piece of parchment tied with red tape round their necks, on which was written, "Apply to Mr. Bland, Rotherham." Four of these pigeons found their way to Mr. Brookes' cote, and the others to various cotes in the district, which bad been robbed within a short period. The charge was clearly established against the prisoner Newton and the two Ogles. It was proved that Newton had on several occasions met the coach at Bawtry to receive the hamper as it came empty from Sheffield, and had brought it filled with pigeons to be sent back to Sheffield. Early on the morning of the 8th February, (the day the hamper was followed by Mr. Bland,) Newton and the Ogles were seen carrying the hamper towards Bawtry, at the Angel Inn, in which town Newton afterwards left it with instructions that it was to go by the Pelham coach. Newton was next seen along with tbe Ogles, about two miles from Bawtry, on the Sheffield road, when the Pelham coach passed. It appears that there is on opposition conveyance, which runs over the same ground at the same time as the Pelham. On this morning, the Pelham passed tbe prisoners, and they then hailed the opposition coach, and came by it to Rotherham. They had gone by the train from that place, and were at Wilson's, ready to receive tbe hamper when delivered. It was further proved that these three prisoners had given false names and addresses, and that the two Ogles were seen near the prosecutor's farm on the day before the robbery. The only evidence against Drabble and Wilson, were the facts that the former was found in company with the other prisoners, and had feathers in his pocket and that the latter denied all knowledge of Drabble, Newton, and the two Ogles, when it was proved that both Drabble and Newton were well known to him, and that he had brought pigeons repeatedly of Newton, and sent the empty hampers several times by the coach to Bawtry, when it was received by Newton. On behalf of Drabble, it was stated that he had no connexion with the other prisoners. He accounted for feathers being found in his pocket by stating that he was a pigeon fancier, and they were the feathers of his own pigeons. Wilson, it also appeared, had been upstairs for some minutes before Mr. Bland entered his bouse, and was not aware that it was Newton, Ogle, and Drabble that Mr. Bland referred to when he asked if he knew the four men in the adjoining room. It also appeared that Wilson is blind. Under these circumstances, the learned Counsel for the prosecution withdrew the charge against Drabble and Wilson, and a verdict of Not Guilty was taken as against them. The other three prisoners were found Guilty by the Jury, and were each sentenced to be transported for the term of seven years. The Chairman, in passing sentence, remarked that there was no doubt they were a gang of pigeon stealers who had long infested the district. The prisoner, John Ogle, after sentence was passed, said his brother Robert had had no part in the robbery. The business of the session concluded about four o'clock on Tuesday | OGLE, Robert (I1942)
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| 69 | Sheffield Independent - Saturday 03 March 1849: A GANG OF PIGEON STEALERS. GEORGE NEWTON, 30, ROBERT OGLE, 17, JOHN OGLE, 21, JOHN WILSON, and JOHN DRABBLE, were charged with Stealing 200 pigeons, the property of Mr. George Brooke, of Awkley, near Bawtry. Mr. Overend appeared for the prosecution ; Mr. Blanshard and Mr. Hardy defended the prisoners. The prosecutor's pigeon cotes were entered on the night of the 26th Jan., and out of 200, only three pigeons were left. No clue was obtained to the thieves for some days. It had been observed, however, by Mr. Bland, the High Constable of Rotherham, that a large pigeon hamper passed very frequently between the Masbro' station and Bawtry and Worksop, by the Pelham coach. In consequence of the great number of pigeon cotes which had been robbed in the neighbourhood within tbe last few months, he, on the 8th February, kept a look out for the " Pelham." On the arrival of the coach, at Rotherham, the mysterious hamper was seen at the top. Mr. Bland, with one of his officers, followed the coach to the Masbro' station, and saw the hamper transferred to the train in one of the carriages in which he seated himself. On arriving at Sheffield, and examining the hamper, it was found addressed to " Mr. J. Wilson, Hague Tree, Bernard street, Park," (one of the prisoners.) The hamper remained at the station near two hours ; but as no person called for it a porter was despatched with it to the house of the prisoner Wilson. Mr. Bland and his assistant followed, and immediately the hamper was delivered they entered the house. In one of the rooms they found the two Ogles, Newton, and Drabble, all of whom were dressed in velveteen shooting coats, with capacious pockets, and their appearance was such that they were apprehended on suspicion. The hamper, which was on the floor of the kitchen, was found to contain 103 pigeons. Wilson, the landlord of the house, said he had bought them of a man named Newton, at Bawtry. He denied all knowledge, however, of the four men who were in the adjoining room. On searching the pockets of the four men, there was found a quantity of lucifer matches and pigeon feathers on each of them. It being ascertained that Wilson had told an untruth in saying that he did not know Newton, he was apprehended and committed for trial with the others. The usual expedient was resorted to to discover the owners of the pigeons. Six were thrown up at Tickhill, and eight on Bawtry common, with a small piece of parchment tied with red tape round their necks, on which was written, "Apply to Mr. Bland, Rotherham." Four of these pigeons found their way to Mr. Brookes' cote, and the others to various cotes in the district, which bad been robbed within a short period. The charge was clearly established against the prisoner Newton and the two Ogles. It was proved that Newton had on several occasions met the coach at Bawtry to receive the hamper as it came empty from Sheffield, and had brought it filled with pigeons to be sent back to Sheffield. Early on the morning of the 8th February, (the day the hamper was followed by Mr. Bland,) Newton and the Ogles were seen carrying the hamper towards Bawtry, at the Angel Inn, in which town Newton afterwards left it with instructions that it was to go by the Pelham coach. Newton was next seen along with tbe Ogles, about two miles from Bawtry, on the Sheffield road, when the Pelham coach passed. It appears that there is on opposition conveyance, which runs over the same ground at the same time as the Pelham. On this morning, the Pelham passed tbe prisoners, and they then hailed the opposition coach, and came by it to Rotherham. They had gone by the train from that place, and were at Wilson's, ready to receive tbe hamper when delivered. It was further proved that these three prisoners had given false names and addresses, and that the two Ogles were seen near the prosecutor's farm on the day before the robbery. The only evidence against Drabble and Wilson, were the facts that the former was found in company with the other prisoners, and had feathers in his pocket and that the latter denied all knowledge of Drabble, Newton, and the two Ogles, when it was proved that both Drabble and Newton were well known to him, and that he had brought pigeons repeatedly of Newton, and sent the empty hampers several times by the coach to Bawtry, when it was received by Newton. On behalf of Drabble, it was stated that he had no connexion with the other prisoners. He accounted for feathers being found in his pocket by stating that he was a pigeon fancier, and they were the feathers of his own pigeons. Wilson, it also appeared, had been upstairs for some minutes before Mr. Bland entered his bouse, and was not aware that it was Newton, Ogle, and Drabble that Mr. Bland referred to when he asked if he knew the four men in the adjoining room. It also appeared that Wilson is blind. Under these circumstances, the learned Counsel for the prosecution withdrew the charge against Drabble and Wilson, and a verdict of Not Guilty was taken as against them. The other three prisoners were found Guilty by the Jury, and were each sentenced to be transported for the term of seven years. The Chairman, in passing sentence, remarked that there was no doubt they were a gang of pigeon stealers who had long infested the district. The prisoner, John Ogle, after sentence was passed, said his brother Robert had had no part in the robbery. The business of the session concluded about four o'clock on Tuesday | NEWTON, George (I1944)
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| 70 | Title Precognition against Alexander James Petty Menzies Year 1849 NRS Reference AD14/49/144 Related Documents JC26/1849/384 Accused Name and Designation Age Birthplace Crime Crime Location Alexander James Petty Menzies, son of Robert Menzies, writer in Perth, Taits Hotel, Princes Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian 23 Fife Falsehood, fraud and wilful imposition, and forgery and uttering Edinburgh Victim(s) Name and Designation Age Birthplace Crime Crime Location Donald Munro, Castle Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian Falsehood, fraud and wilful imposition, and forgery and uttering Edinburgh George Vallance junior, son of George Vallance senior, West Register Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian Falsehood, fraud and wilful imposition, and forgery and uttering Edinburgh George Vallance senior, West Register Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian Falsehood, fraud and wilful imposition, and forgery and uttering Edinburgh Graeme Alexander Lockhart, lieutant in 78th Regiment of Foot, India Falsehood, fraud and wilful imposition, and forgery and uttering Edinburgh James Tait, Princes Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian Falsehood, fraud and wilful imposition, and forgery and uttering Edinburgh John Mortimer, partner, George Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian Falsehood, fraud and wilful imposition, and forgery and uttering Edinburgh Moritz Cohnert, St. James' Square, Edinburgh, Midlothian Falsehood, fraud and wilful imposition, and forgery and uttering Edinburgh Walter Vallance, son of George Valance, West Register Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian Falsehood, fraud and wilful imposition, and forgery and uttering Edinburgh | MENZIES, Alexander James Petty (I1371)
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| 71 | Transcript from The Old Bailey: BARTHOLOMEW BATHUBLEY , stealing 1 handkerchief, value 1s.; the goods of David Alston, from his person; having been before convicted: to which he pleaded GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years. | BATHARLEY, Bartholomew (I2110)
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| 72 | Transcript from The Old Bailey: CHARLES WILSON , stealing 20 yards of canvass, value 5s.; the goods of James Tibbett Hall and another; having been before convicted to which he pleaded GUILTY .* Aged 26.— Transported for Seven Years. | WILSON, Charles (I2096)
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| 73 | Transcript from The Old Bailey: JOHN BELL , stealing 1 purse, value 1s., 3 sovereigns, and 15s.; I the property of Benjamin Lewis Baynham, from the person of Ann Baynharn: I having been before convicted. MESSRS. RYLAND and LAURIE conducted the Prosecution. MICHAEL HAYDON (City-policeman). On Monday evening, 26th March, I was on duty on London-bridge, in company with Brett—I saw the prisoner and another man, coming from the Surrey side towards the City—near the centre of the bridge they met a lady, and turned back after her—the prisoner walked close to her, and looked at the right-hand side of her dress—he then put his hand into her pocket, and walked several paces with his hand there—he then took it out, and ran across the road—I followed him with Brett—he looked over his shoulder, then drew his hand from his pocket, and threw something like a purse over into the river—I went after the lady—the prisoner was taken to the station, and the lady there said, "How cruel it was to rob me of every farthing I had in the world"—he seemed rather sorrowful, and begged her pardon. Cross-examined by MR. CHARNOCK. Q. What time was it? A. About seven o'clock, and just getting dusk—I cannot swear what it was he threw over—I was not near enough to see precisely—I was within two yards of him—Brett was not so near as I—I have been in this sort of case before—I never swear to the thing unless I am positive—the prisoner had his left-hand in the lady's right pocket. JAMES BRETT (City policeman, 13). I was with Hay don, and saw the prisoner and another coming from the Surrey side—they turned short round on the prosecutrix, and the prisoner walked close up to her right side, and the other one close to him, and rather behind—I did not see what took place, as I was behind Haydon—I saw them run across the road—I and Hay don followed them—just as Haydon got within reach of the prisoner, I saw him throw something over the bridge, which I believe was a purse—he then stooped down, and I caught him. Cross-examined. Q. Did you ever before say you believed it to be a parse? A. Yes, before the Magistrate—Haydon was nearer to him than I—we were both in plain clothes. WILLIAM MOUSLEY . I am a chair-maker, of 22, Dunn-street, Mile-end-road. On the evening of 26th March I was coming over London-bridge and taw three men running towards me—the prisoner was first—I looked round and saw something go over the bridge, which I supposed was a bit of chain—it was nearly dark—the prisoner stooped down under Haydon's arm to dodge him, and Brett collared him. Cross-examined. Q. What it was that went over you cannot tell? A. No—I saw something glistening, from the lamp on the bridge. ANN BAYNHAM . I am the wife of Benjamin Lewis Baynham; we live at Southampton. On the evening of 26th March, I went over London-bridge—I had come out of an omnibus five or seven minutes before, paid my fare, and put my purse into my pocket again—it had steel beads—I stated the amount wrong, in my confusion—I afterwards calculated what I had paid, and found there were only two sovereigns and fifteen shillings in the purse—Haydon spoke to me—I immediately examined my pocket, and the purse was gone—I had this dress on. Cross-examined. Q. Do you carry your handkerchief there as well as your purse? A. Yes; but my handkerchief was then in my muff—it had not been in my pocket at all—I had no hole in my pocket—I got out of the omnibus in King William-street, and walked on to the bridge—I had not stopped at any shop—I had no occasion to put my hand into my pocket, until Haydon spoke to me—the pocket is in my dress—I do not put my hand through my dress to get at it—I never had anything slip down between my dress and other clothes—when I once have my hand in it I cannot drop anything—it is a very different pocket from those that used to be worn. JAMES CUDDY (policeman, L 194). I produce a certificate (read—John Bell convicted, Aug, 1844, of stealing a handkerchief; confined six months)—the prisoner is the man. GUILTY .** Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years , | BELL, John (I2116)
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| 74 | Trial Transcript made by Veanne Treasure, uploaded to Ancestry Somerset Heritage Centre Archives Documents Depositions and Witness Statements for trial 28th March 1848 - Wells, Somerset, England Transcribed by Veanne Treasure – 22 April 2012 (Edward TREASURE b. 1825 d. 1886) Document No. 54 8th February 1840 Frome Depositions against Edward TREASURE for stealing Sweed Turnips from Stephen STEED. Committed for next Wells Quarter Session. Recog???ances £40 each. Alexander GERRARD to prosecute William FILER ) James NICHOLLS ) William HOLDWAY ) to give evidence Thomas BURGE ) Edward MILBORNE ) Document No. 189 The Prisoner, Edward TREASURE, upon being asked if he wished to say anything in answer to the Charge, Voluntarily Says, as follows – I know nothing at all about it. I never ??? the Boots that they swore to the Tracks until Saturday Morning. Signed Edward TREASURE Taken before me Signed John George MOGG Document No. 190 Alexander GERRARD being sworn upon his oath saith as follows – I am servant to Messrs Stephen and Edward STEEDS of Norton Down Farm. They are partners. Some Sweeds were missing from their premises on Saturday morning last the 5th instant. Neither of my masters were at home at the time it was discovered that the Pit was broken into. Signed Alexander GERRARD Taken and sworn before me Signed John George MOGG Document No. 191 Thomas BURGE, being Sworn upon his Oath saith as follows – I am Constable of the Parish of Chilcompton. This Morning, Tuesday the 8th February, the Boots now produced were taken off the Prisoner’s feet and I compared them with some Tracks in the Yard leading to the Turnip Pit and they perfectly agreed. I believe the Prisoner’s boots made those tracks. Signed Thomas BURGE Taken and sworn before me Signed John George MOGG Document No. 192 William HOLDWAY being sworn upon his oath saith as follows – I am in the employ of Mr Stephen STEEDS and his Brothers. In consequence of information derived from the witness NICHOLLS I went yesterday (Monday the 7th February) to the Prisoner’s (Edward TREASURE) residence at Stoke Lane about five miles from Norton Down, and searched a Dung Mixer close to the back door and found some pieces of Sweed Turnips freshly cut covered over more than two feet deep. The Prisoner lives as a Single Man with his (Mother Elizabeth – crossed through) Father and Mother. His Mother was at home, but not the Prisoner or his Father. I then went on to Evercreech and apprehended the Prisoner at the Bell Inn and told him that it was for stealing Sweeds on Friday night from Norton Down. He said he was at home Friday evening and did not go out until Monday morning. I brought him then to Norton Down and in the course of the evening I looked at his boots. This morning the Prisoner was requested to take off his Boots by the Constable Thomas BURGE, which he did, and I and BURGE compared the same with tracks of a Man’s Foot which were then visible near to the Turnip Pit, and they are exactly the same. I saw the same Tracks closer to the Pit on Sunday Morning last. Signed William HOLDWAY Taken and sworn before me Signed John George MOGG Document No. 193 James NICHOLLS being sworn upon his oath saith as follows – I live at Holcombe and am a Hay ward of that Parish. On last Saturday morning (the fifth of February) I met the Prisoner Edward TREASURE and another Man coming down Holcombe Hill towards Edford and Stoke Lane. They had several donkeys with them all loaded. TREASURE said to me “Good Morning, Sir” and I replied “Good Morning, Gentlemen – you are loaded be??? this morning.” One of them replied “Yes we be.” It was about two miles and a half from Norton Down Farm to the place where I met the Prisoner, and it was in the direct road to Stoke Lane, where the Prisoner TREASURE lives. I knew his Person well before, but not exactly his name. TREASURE was close to me when I passed him in Holcombe Hill. The Prisoner Edward TREASURE keeps several Donkeys and carries Coal. Since I have told Mr STEEDS what I saw, the Prisoner, whilst in custody, has threatened to cut my throat, and swore he would beat my brains out. The Prisoner has now said that his Father keeps two Donkeys. He lives with his Father. The Mark of James NICHOLLS Taken and Sworn before me Signed John George MOGG Document No. 194 Somerset to Wit – Depositions against Edward TREASURE for stealing turnips from a Pit taken upon oath this Eighth day of February 1848. William FILER being sworn upon his oath saith as follows – I am a workman in the employ of Messrs Stephen STEEDS and brothers at Norton Down Farm in the Parishes of Midsomer Norton and Chilcompton in the County of Somerset. My Masters have got a large Pit of Sweed Turnips in a Plot of Ground in the said Parish of Midsomer Norton about fifty yards from their Farm House and Premises at Norton Down aforesaid. I took some Sweeds out of this Pit about five o’clock in the Evening of Friday last, the fourth of February instant for my Masters’ cattle and then covered the Pit over with Straw and Reed as before. About half past Seven o’clock the next Morning (Saturday the fifth of February) I went to this Pit for Sweeds. I found that the Pit had been opened, and about two yards and a half in length and a bout a yard in width of the space of the Pit had been partially cleared of the largest of the Turnips containing altogether about three Sacks and worth at least about seven shillings and six pence. They had been stolen. I observed the marks of a Man’s Feet, and also, apparently, those of a Bag close to the Pit. I told my fellow workmen what I had seen and in a few minutes I saw a Donkey standing in the Road close to my Master’s premises with a Bag of Sweed Turnips on his back. I saw the Tracks of two Donkeys about fifty yards from the Pit, on my Master’s Premises, one of which was shod and the other not. The Donkey I saw in the Road and which is now owned by Jane EMERY, a married Sister of the Prisoner, and who lives at Stoke Lane, has no shoes on. I also saw the same Tracks of a Man’s foot from the Pit to a track leading into the Road from my Master’s Premises. The Mark of William FILER Taken and Sworn before ) me a Justice of the Peace ) in and for the County of ) Signed John George MOGG Somerset ) Document No. 195 Edward MILBORNE being sworn upon his Oath saith as follows – I was placed as Guard over the Prisoner Edward TREASURE. In the course of last Monday night whilst sitting up with the Prisoner at Norton Down Farm I asked the Prisoner to show me his Boots, which he did. I looked at them and said that appears like the Tracks that were out in the Yard. He said “Do you think it is.” I replied “Yes, I do think so.” He then said he would give me a Sovereign if I would do away with the Tracks. He also said he had got a new Pair of Kerseymere Breeches and Leggings and he would give me them too – and if I would get him another pair of Boots he would give me those he then wore. I was with the Prisoner this Morning at Crabbs Beer House near Norton Down and the Prisoner asked some Man whom he knew and called Joe, to change Boots which I objected to. Last night the Prisoner by means of a Poker and by stamping his feet and scraping them against the Grate endeavoured to get some Nails out of his Boots. This morning the Prisoner with a Piece of Hoop Iron took out two Nails from one of his Boots, and drove in one of them in another place in his Boot. He was handcuffed to me all the time. Signed Edward MILBORNE Taken and sworn before me Signed John George MOGG Document No. 334 These are to Certify that at the General Quarter Session of the Peace of our Lady the Queen holden at Bridgwater in and for the County of Somerset, on Monday the twenty ninth day of June in the adjournment to Monday the sixth day of July following at the City of Wells in and for the said County, and then there holden Edward TREASURE late of the Parish of Evercreech in the said County, labourer was in due form of Law indicted, tried and convicted For that he the said Edward TREASURE ( with two others) on the fourteenth day of April in the year of our Lord One Thousand Eight Hundred and forty with force and arms at the Parish aforesaid, in the County aforesaid, a certain Building of one John WEST, Clerk, there situate feloniously did break and enter, the said Building then and there being within the Curtilage of the Dwelling house of the said John WEST there and there being part thereof according to the provisions of the Statute in such case made and provided and that the said Edward TREASURE (with the said two others) one handkerchief of the value of six pence of the goods and chattels of the value of twelve pence and one looking glass of the value of six pence of the goods and chattels of George DUPE in the same building then and there being found then and there in the same Building feloniously did steal take and carry away against the form of the Statute in that case made and provided an against the Queen’s Peace. And the said Edward TREASURE was thereupon ordered and adjudged by the Court to be transported beyond the Seas for Ten years. Given under my hand this sixteenth day of March in the year of our Lord 1848. Signed Edwin LOVELL Clerk of the Peace for the said County of Somerset | TREASURE, Edward (I2052)
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| 75 | Wallace was tried on 2 seperate matters on the same day in The Old Bailey, London. Trial one: NATHANIEL WALLACE , stealing 16 window sashes, value 2l.; the goods of John Gover. JOHN COOK . I am a builder. On 28th April I saw two men with some sashes slung between two poles, coming in a direction from Mr. Gover's house—I believe the prisoner to be one—I told Mr. Gover—I found some sashes were gone from his house. GEORGE COOK . On 28th April I saw the prisoner and another man carrying eight or nine pairs of sashes on a pole, about half-past six o'clock is the morning, about twenty yards from Mr. Gover's houses. CHARLES CLARK . The prisoner came to me to sell me ten or twelve pain of old sashes, some time in April—I did not buy them—I went to the prisoner's house to tell him to take them away. NOT GUILTY . Trial two: NATHANIEL WALLACE was again indicted for stealing 23 window-sashes, value 3l., the goods of John Gover: having been before convicted. JOHN COOK . On 30th April, about seven o'clock in the morning, I saw the prisoner take a truck, loaded with twenty-three sashes, up the hill—he was one of the men who drew it—when I first saw him he was about twenty yards from Mr. John Gover's house—I followed the truck and counted the sashes—I believe them to be Mr. Gover's—they were similar to his; it was about seven o'clock in the morning. Cross-examined by MR. HORRT. Q. You never saw the sashes till they were there? A. No. WILLIAM HUNT . On 30th April, or 1st May, I saw the prisoner come down the hill with a truck, take the sashes out of the house, and load them in the truck—I pointed out the house. Cross-examined. Q. Were you near the house? A. About fifty yards off; the prisoner could see me if he had looked—there are five houses—Mr. Cook's house is near Mr. Gover's—I could see these were taken from Mr. Gover's. CHARLES CLARK (policeman, P 108). Hunt pointed out to me the house that the sashes came from, it was Mr. John Gover's—there are five unfinished houses; this is the third house—the sashes were deposited there, and locked up—I took the prisoner, and charged him with being concerned with another person in stealing some sashes belonging to Mr. Gover, he said he had not been there since Christmas—I produced this white cap, and Hunt said it was like the one the prisoner had on. GEORGE STRUTT . I locked up the house on the 7th, and gave the key to a Mr. Croker. WILLIAM MORTEN (police-inspector). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's conviction—(read—Convicted Nov., 1846, and confined six months)—he is the person; he had been tried a month before that with another person. GUILTY .† Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years. | WALLACE, Nathaniel (I2071)
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| 76 | York Herald - Saturday 17 March 1849: EXTENSIVE SYSTEM OF SWINDLING AT LEEDS. WILLIAM MOAT (47), and HENRY SOULBY MELSON (29), were charged with having, at Leeds, conspired together, and, by false pretences, obtained forty stones of oatmeal, with intent to defraud John Thomas Gratton. Mr. Hall, Mr. Overend and Mr. Hardy were counsel for the prosecution, and Mr. Price for the defence. The individual named in the indictment is a corn factor and flour dealer at Chesterfield. On the13th of December last, he received s letter dated 52, Meadow-lane Leeds, requesting him to send s sack of oatmeal and a sack of shelling, as samples, to Henry Melson & Co., corn factors, Leeds, and then stating that should they suit more extensive orders would be sent. Mr. Gratton replied to this epistle, and asked for a reference, in consequence of which the swindlers transmitted the name of Mr. S. Budworth, 23, Bond Street, Leeds, and Ardwick Bridge, Manchester. On the faith of this apparently respectable referee, the prosecutor dispatched the oatmeal, forming the subject of the present investigation, and it was delivered to them at the railway station in Leeds. No money was ever paid for tbe goods, according to the stipulated terms. Some correspondence took place between Mr. Gratton and the secretary of the Leeds Tradesmen's Protection Society, end, subsequently, with the secretary of a similar association at Liverpool, the result of which was that disclosures were made proving that the parties were extensive swindlers, and that " Mr. S. Budsworth" was no other personage than the prisoner Melson. The scheme of the prisoners wss to take premises in various towns, and represent themselves as merchants, and thus to impose on tradesmen living at a distance from the scene of their fraudulent operations. In Leeds, they assumed the business of seed merchants and corn factors, and, accordingly, took a respectable warehouse in Bond-street ; in Manchester, they represented themselves as wool, cotton, and wine merchants, and also commission agents, and rented, without paying for, premises in Haigh -street ; in Liverpool, they engaged an office in the Stock Exchange Chambers, which they wanted, they said, for the purpose of shipping consignments of earthenware, for Mr. S. Budworth, of the Staffordshire potteries. They likewise asserted that they were gypsum and cement manufacturers at Hull ; and one ot their "company," under the name of Hanford, took some premises in Bishopsgate-street, York, a year or two ago, and attempted to defraud several tradesmen in the city. The imposition, however, was speedily detected, end their enterprise proved a failure. In this manner, under various names, the firm had carried on a large trade, and tradesmen in London, Hull, Northampton, Boston, Portsmouth, and even Belfast and Dundee, and other places, had become the victims of their plans. A great number of letters, alleged to have been written by both the prisoners, were produced, and amongst them the two above referred to, which Moat admitted, when arrested in the warehouse in Bond-street, to be in his hand writing, but under the direction of Melson. All the goods thus obtained had been sold and exchanged for ether commodities, with the exception of a portion of tbe oatmeal which was found in the warehouse in Bond-street. Mr. Price contended that Moat had acted as a servant to Melson, and that there was no conspiracy existing between them.— Guilty .- His lordship sentenced the prisoners to be imprisoned and kept to hard labour for twelve months for the conspiracy, and at the expiration of that term to be transported for seven years for the fraud. | MOAT, William (I1926)
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| 80 | 1595. EDWARD GEORGE BARRINGTON , feloniously being at large, without lawful excuse, before the expiration of the term for which he was ordered to be transported. WILLIAM PENNY . I was an inspector of police, but I am now inspector of nuisances in Clerkenwell. I was present at the June Session, 1844, at this Court, when the prisoner was tried and sentenced to ten years' transportation. On Saturday, 24th Aug. last, I saw him in Leonard-street, near Leonard-square, Shoreditch—he was walking at large towards his residence—I took him into custody, and told him it was for running away from Western Australia—he said he was pardoned, and he could show me his ticket—I told him he must do so, but he must go first to the station—he then said it was that b—y rogue Charley that had sold him—I produce a certificate of his conviction—(read, Edward George Barrington, Convicted June, 1844, and ordered to be transported for ten years)—I saw Mr. Clark sign this paper. Cross-examined by MR. DIGBY SEYMOUR. Q. There was no previous conviction against the prisoner then? A. No; as soon as he was arrested, he said that he was pardoned, and that he had his ticket—he did not say that he had had his ticket—I believe he was partner with his brother Charles—when he was tried he was sent to the Model-prison—I believe he went to Western Australia—I do not know that he received a ticket of leave for good conduct. JOHN JENKINS . I am the principal warder of the Model-prison, at Pentonville. The prisoner was received there on 2nd Sept., 1844, and remained there till 6th Oct., 1845—he was then removed to the Cumberland for Western Australia. Cross-examined. Q. He came to the Model-prison from Millbank? A. Yes; I do not know how many persons went out along with him in the Cumberland—he received a ticket of leave, and was sent abroad with that party, in consequence of his good conduct—he went in the capacity of a millwright to Western Australia—he had a working dress and another dress, the same as the others had—his conduct was good from the time of his apprehension. GUILTY. Aged 36.— Recommended to mercy.—Judgment Respited. | BARRINGTON, Edward G (I1671)
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| 81 | 1733. GEORGE WHITE , stealing 1 pair of trowsers, value 10s.; the goods of Elizabeth Narraway; to-which he pleaded ** GUILTY . Aged 29.— Transported for Seven Years . | WHITE, George (I1478)
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| 82 | 184. JOHN COLLINS, DANIEL COLLINS, JOHN CONOLLY , and JOHN RAGAN , stealing 1 purse, value 6d., and 18 sovereigns, the property of James Little, from his person; Conolly having been before convicted. MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution. JAMES LITTLE . I am a seaman, and was paid off at Sheerness on 7th Nov.—I received 27l. for about three years' service—I arrived at London-bridge about two o'clock, on 8th Nov., by steam-boat—I then had 19l. in gold and some silver in my pocket, in a green silk purse, with two bright steel rings on it—Vallance rowed me over to Tooley-street, and two of my shipmates—he took my bag to the Roacbuck, and went with them to the railway—he returned, and we had a pot of beer and half a pint of rum between us in the tap-room—I left my bag of clothes at the bar, and left the Roebuck—I had changed a sovereign at the bar to pay for the drink I had, and then had eighteen sovereigns left—I put the purse in my breast, between my two Ciurnsey shirts—I had engaged a bed at the Roebuck—I was not there more than an nour and a half—I went out with Vallancc—he wished me to go home with him—we went to the Horse and Cart public-house, in Tooley-street, and had some more beer—I walked with him to Parish-street—I parted with him in the street, and turned to go back to the Roebuck—I went into a shop in Tooley street and boughtt some bread and meat—John Collins and Conolly came up—Conully said, "Old follow, you shall not be lost; my mother keeps beds, and you shall come along with me, and shall have a good bed, and shall not bo lost; you shall not be astray"—I went with them into a public-house in Tooley-street—we had the bread and meat, and I gave them plenty of beer, and some gin afterwards—I was going away—Conolly said, "You shall not go yet, I (or we) will stand a pot of beer"—a pot of half-and-half was called tor—it was placed on the table—one of them said to me, "Get up, old fellow, and drink hearty before we go"—I got up and took a hearty draught from the pot—neither of them drank any—in a little time Conolly said, "Come, drink, and let us go"—I took hold of the pot a second time, and saw that the beer was not like what I had seen, it was somewhat like milk, but I took another draught—I called a cab, and we all drove home to go to Conolly's mother's—I felt my money safe in the cab—I was driven to any place they thought proper—we got out of the cab, and I began to feel myself rather dead—we stopped at the Anti-Gallican, went in, and had some more beer—they helped me out of the cab, because I felt myself too far gone—one of them sat on each side of me; and while we sat there drinking some beer, it overcame me altogether, and I went to sleep—there was no one but those two drinking with me—we had nothing but beer there—en the following morning I found myself lying in a nasty, dirty, wet alley, my clothes unbuttoned, my pockets turned, my purse and everything gone—I had some loose money, as well as that in the purse, and a tobacco-box. Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. What time did you get to the Roebuck? A. Between four and five o'clock in the afternoon—it was not much after six when I left—I was not very drunk while I was in the prisoners' company—I did not see the beer poured out which they told me to drink hearty of—it was brought in by some servant. JURY. Q. Did either of the prisoners handle the pot before you drank? A. No—I do not know whether they had any opportunity of putting anything in—I did not see either of them go out to order it. NORAH ARNETT . I am an unfortunate girl, and live in Unicorn-square, Southwark. On the night of 8th Nov., about eight o'clock, I went into the Anti-Gallican, and saw the four prisoners, and several others—I saw-Little and Campbell sitting, drinking, in the same box with the prisoners—they had a pot of half-and-half when I went in—it was full—they had emptied one—they called for another—Little pulled out a purse from inside his breast, and paid 6d.—he was a little the worse for liquor—he retained the purse in his hand—I did not see him return it to his breast—he took out some half-pence, and paid for the half-and-half—the prisoners all went out in a very few minutes—I knew them all, using the house—Campbell and Little remained, finishing the half-and-half—there were some more young men in the place, but not in the same box—Little called some of them to have some of the half-and-half—he was then the worse for liquor. Cross-examined. Q. You did not see the purse leave his hand? A. No—lie-. at with his side to me—I am not mistaken in Conolly; I knew them all. THOMAS VALLANCE . I am a waterman, of Pear-street, Horsleydown. On Sth Nov. I rowed Little from a steamboat at London-bridge over to the Tooley-street side—he inquired of me for a lodging—it was then a quarter-past two o'clock—he had two petty-officers belonging to a man-of-war with him—I took him to the railway—he waited at the foot of London-bridge, and I took him to the Roebuck—he paid me for my job, and stood a drop of something to drink—I offered to take him home to tea—we went down Today-street, to Belt's houie, and Lad two pots of half-and-half; then we went to the King of Prussia; we had nothing there—lie declined to go home with me to tea, but said he would go back to where Ins bag was—I was to be there in the morning to take him to the railway—next morning I found him King at the Rucbuek, in a basket of cinders, almost dead—he never awoke till lour o'clock in the after noon—I could not beat any senses into him—he had only got me, that was in his right pocket. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL . I lodged at earns lodging-house, Vine-yard, Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., between six and stun o'clock, I saw Daniel Collins—he came our to me of Events miss, and and, Come and have a drop of beer"—I said I did not mind—we went to the Anti-Gallican, and saw Little, in a box in the tap-room, with Conolly on one side, and John Collins on the other—in a few minutes Daniel Collins went over to the box where Little was, sat down, and joined the rest—in a few minutes Ragan came in—he stood a listle at the side of the box, about ten minutes, and then sat down in the same box with them—Daniel Collins asked some of the parties in the room to drink—he did not ask me—I did not drink with them, only when I went in—I saw Arnett come in—Little was every much intoxicated—Daniel Collins lifted a pot off the table where he sat—John Collins put his hand into Little's left-hand pocket, took it out, put it into his breast, pulled it out shut, and slid he had got the skin—Ragan then said, "Come and have a drop of gin, boys"—the four prisoners walked out, and a man whom they call Conolly Collins—I was not in it, I only saw it done—I remained in the, tap-room a few minutes—Little got up, felt himself all over, said, "My money is all gone!" and rapped on the table—I went out, and saw no more—on the Friday I saw Daniel Collins with a new jacket and a new pair of shoes—I did not speak to him, he was not near me; but in the evening I asked him where he got them—he said he pot a sovereign from his father, and vent and bought them—I said, "You got something out of that lot that was one last night, I suppose?"—he denied it—I sau him receive two half-crowns rom a woman that night. Cross-examined. Q. What time did you go into the Anti-Gallican? A. Between six and seven o'clock—I stayed about half an hour—I afterwards went home and went to bed—I came from home to the Anti-Gallican—I had only drunk one drop—a pot was handed to me by a party in the room when I went in—I am sure I did not go into this box at all—I saw Arnett standing at the table—that table was opposite to me—it goes right across the. room from the door—it was the same table—I sat opposite, and saw all about it—she was a considerable distance from them all the time, and I was further off than she was—I saw Little pull some money out of his left pocket to pay for liquor—I did not see him pull his purse out—that might be half an hour before the prisoners left—it was before I saw John Collins put his hand into his pocket—they left about a minute or so after that—Arnett did not go with them, she remained in the room when they went out—there was no one left in the room but me and Little—Arnett went out after them—I am a sailor—it is three months since I was at sea—I live close by the Anti-Gallican. Conolly A man snatched 3d. out of your hand for a lark; you said, "If you do not give me that 3d. it will be the worse for you," and fetched in a policeman and had me taken. Witness. Nobody took any money from me—I gave information about this job, and of course the policeman took you—I did not offer to put 2d. to your 2d. for a pot of porter—I was never in your company that evening—Arnett's—husband had nothing to do with me that evening. ELIZABATH BUCKMASTER . My husband keeps the Roebuck in Tooley-street—I remember Little and Vallance coming—they had drink—Little paid for it out of a green purse, rather bulky, which he kept in his breast pocket—he changed a sovereign—I did not see him leave. JOSHUA GOLDEN (policrnian, M 87). On 8th Nov., between five and six o'clock, I was on duty in Tooley-street, and saw Vallance part with Little at the corner of Parish-street—Little went into a cheesemonger's shop—John Collins was standing opposite watching him—he saw me watching him, joined another man, and both went into the Anti-Gallican—I spoke to two of my sergeants, and while doing so saw Little leave the shop—I heard of the robbery that evening—on the Friday night Campbell gave me information, and I took John Collins. Cross-examined. Q. In what state was Little?A. He had been drinking but was quite conscious of what he was doing—he walked quite erect—he bought some meat in the shop—the man who Collins joined was Ringrose, who is not in custody—other people were in the street, but I saw no one standing looking but Collins. HENRY HUNT (policeman, M 82). On 12th Nov. I took Daniel Collins, in Tooley-street—I told him it was for being concerned with his brother, who was remanded—he said what his brother had done was nothing to do with him—in going to the station I said, "You have been buying some new clothes"—he said, "What new clothes?—I said, "A jacket and a pair of boots"—he said, "This jacket I have had three months, and can't a fellow afford to buy a pair of boots out of 1l. a week?"—it was not a new jacket, but different to what I had been in the habit of seeing him in—he asked where his brother was—I said I believed he was at Horsemonger-lane—he said, "I have not seen him this fortnight." CATHERINE HOLT . I am the wife of William Holt, who keeps the Colonel Wardell, in Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., about twelve o'clock, as we were clearing the house Conolly came and got change of a sovereign from me—about twenty minutes before that, I found a drunken sailor by my door quite insensible—two constables had him—I took him into my house and gave him such lodgings as I could—it turned out to be Little—a policeman searched him—I saw nothing found but a few papers and a piece of whipcord—he went asleep on the form—he went away in the morning before I was down—he was so drunk I could make nothing of him. JOHN WEBB . I keep a lodging-house in Pump-court, Vine-yard, opposite the Anti-Gallican. On 8th Nov., between ten and eleven o'clock at night, a sailor was brought to my place by John and Daniel Collins—his head was down—I could not see his features—he appeared very drunk, and I refused to take him in—next day I went with Daniel Collins to buy a pair of shoes—he paid 6s. 6d. for them, and bought a jacket for 4s. 6d. John Collins. Q. Did not Campbell help to take the man away?A. Yes, he came with them and went away with them—I said that before the Magistrate. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL re-examined. I only went outside the door the same as Webb did himself—I was there when the party came in—I live there. MR. METCALFE to JOHN WEBB. Q. Did Campbell live in the house? A. Occasionally—Conolly lodged there—Campbell was away at the Anti-Gallican with them and came back with them. GEORGE WALKER JUDGE (Thames police-inspector). I produce a certificate of Conolly's conviction—I was present at his trial—he is the person mentioned in it—(read—Convicted Nov. 1843, and confined one month). JOHN COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 22. DANIEL COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 19. CONOLLY— GUILTY . Aged 23. RAGAN— GUILTY . Aged 23. Transported for Ten Years. | COLLINS, Daniel (I1727)
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| 83 | 184. JOHN COLLINS, DANIEL COLLINS, JOHN CONOLLY , and JOHN RAGAN , stealing 1 purse, value 6d., and 18 sovereigns, the property of James Little, from his person; Conolly having been before convicted. MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution. JAMES LITTLE . I am a seaman, and was paid off at Sheerness on 7th Nov.—I received 27l. for about three years' service—I arrived at London-bridge about two o'clock, on 8th Nov., by steam-boat—I then had 19l. in gold and some silver in my pocket, in a green silk purse, with two bright steel rings on it—Vallance rowed me over to Tooley-street, and two of my shipmates—he took my bag to the Roacbuck, and went with them to the railway—he returned, and we had a pot of beer and half a pint of rum between us in the tap-room—I left my bag of clothes at the bar, and left the Roebuck—I had changed a sovereign at the bar to pay for the drink I had, and then had eighteen sovereigns left—I put the purse in my breast, between my two Ciurnsey shirts—I had engaged a bed at the Roebuck—I was not there more than an nour and a half—I went out with Vallancc—he wished me to go home with him—we went to the Horse and Cart public-house, in Tooley-street, and had some more beer—I walked with him to Parish-street—I parted with him in the street, and turned to go back to the Roebuck—I went into a shop in Tooley street and boughtt some bread and meat—John Collins and Conolly came up—Conully said, "Old follow, you shall not be lost; my mother keeps beds, and you shall come along with me, and shall have a good bed, and shall not bo lost; you shall not be astray"—I went with them into a public-house in Tooley-street—we had the bread and meat, and I gave them plenty of beer, and some gin afterwards—I was going away—Conolly said, "You shall not go yet, I (or we) will stand a pot of beer"—a pot of half-and-half was called tor—it was placed on the table—one of them said to me, "Get up, old fellow, and drink hearty before we go"—I got up and took a hearty draught from the pot—neither of them drank any—in a little time Conolly said, "Come, drink, and let us go"—I took hold of the pot a second time, and saw that the beer was not like what I had seen, it was somewhat like milk, but I took another draught—I called a cab, and we all drove home to go to Conolly's mother's—I felt my money safe in the cab—I was driven to any place they thought proper—we got out of the cab, and I began to feel myself rather dead—we stopped at the Anti-Gallican, went in, and had some more beer—they helped me out of the cab, because I felt myself too far gone—one of them sat on each side of me; and while we sat there drinking some beer, it overcame me altogether, and I went to sleep—there was no one but those two drinking with me—we had nothing but beer there—en the following morning I found myself lying in a nasty, dirty, wet alley, my clothes unbuttoned, my pockets turned, my purse and everything gone—I had some loose money, as well as that in the purse, and a tobacco-box. Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. What time did you get to the Roebuck? A. Between four and five o'clock in the afternoon—it was not much after six when I left—I was not very drunk while I was in the prisoners' company—I did not see the beer poured out which they told me to drink hearty of—it was brought in by some servant. JURY. Q. Did either of the prisoners handle the pot before you drank? A. No—I do not know whether they had any opportunity of putting anything in—I did not see either of them go out to order it. NORAH ARNETT . I am an unfortunate girl, and live in Unicorn-square, Southwark. On the night of 8th Nov., about eight o'clock, I went into the Anti-Gallican, and saw the four prisoners, and several others—I saw-Little and Campbell sitting, drinking, in the same box with the prisoners—they had a pot of half-and-half when I went in—it was full—they had emptied one—they called for another—Little pulled out a purse from inside his breast, and paid 6d.—he was a little the worse for liquor—he retained the purse in his hand—I did not see him return it to his breast—he took out some half-pence, and paid for the half-and-half—the prisoners all went out in a very few minutes—I knew them all, using the house—Campbell and Little remained, finishing the half-and-half—there were some more young men in the place, but not in the same box—Little called some of them to have some of the half-and-half—he was then the worse for liquor. Cross-examined. Q. You did not see the purse leave his hand? A. No—lie-. at with his side to me—I am not mistaken in Conolly; I knew them all. THOMAS VALLANCE . I am a waterman, of Pear-street, Horsleydown. On Sth Nov. I rowed Little from a steamboat at London-bridge over to the Tooley-street side—he inquired of me for a lodging—it was then a quarter-past two o'clock—he had two petty-officers belonging to a man-of-war with him—I took him to the railway—he waited at the foot of London-bridge, and I took him to the Roebuck—he paid me for my job, and stood a drop of something to drink—I offered to take him home to tea—we went down Today-street, to Belt's houie, and Lad two pots of half-and-half; then we went to the King of Prussia; we had nothing there—lie declined to go home with me to tea, but said he would go back to where Ins bag was—I was to be there in the morning to take him to the railway—next morning I found him King at the Rucbuek, in a basket of cinders, almost dead—he never awoke till lour o'clock in the after noon—I could not beat any senses into him—he had only got me, that was in his right pocket. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL . I lodged at earns lodging-house, Vine-yard, Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., between six and stun o'clock, I saw Daniel Collins—he came our to me of Events miss, and and, Come and have a drop of beer"—I said I did not mind—we went to the Anti-Gallican, and saw Little, in a box in the tap-room, with Conolly on one side, and John Collins on the other—in a few minutes Daniel Collins went over to the box where Little was, sat down, and joined the rest—in a few minutes Ragan came in—he stood a listle at the side of the box, about ten minutes, and then sat down in the same box with them—Daniel Collins asked some of the parties in the room to drink—he did not ask me—I did not drink with them, only when I went in—I saw Arnett come in—Little was every much intoxicated—Daniel Collins lifted a pot off the table where he sat—John Collins put his hand into Little's left-hand pocket, took it out, put it into his breast, pulled it out shut, and slid he had got the skin—Ragan then said, "Come and have a drop of gin, boys"—the four prisoners walked out, and a man whom they call Conolly Collins—I was not in it, I only saw it done—I remained in the, tap-room a few minutes—Little got up, felt himself all over, said, "My money is all gone!" and rapped on the table—I went out, and saw no more—on the Friday I saw Daniel Collins with a new jacket and a new pair of shoes—I did not speak to him, he was not near me; but in the evening I asked him where he got them—he said he pot a sovereign from his father, and vent and bought them—I said, "You got something out of that lot that was one last night, I suppose?"—he denied it—I sau him receive two half-crowns rom a woman that night. Cross-examined. Q. What time did you go into the Anti-Gallican? A. Between six and seven o'clock—I stayed about half an hour—I afterwards went home and went to bed—I came from home to the Anti-Gallican—I had only drunk one drop—a pot was handed to me by a party in the room when I went in—I am sure I did not go into this box at all—I saw Arnett standing at the table—that table was opposite to me—it goes right across the. room from the door—it was the same table—I sat opposite, and saw all about it—she was a considerable distance from them all the time, and I was further off than she was—I saw Little pull some money out of his left pocket to pay for liquor—I did not see him pull his purse out—that might be half an hour before the prisoners left—it was before I saw John Collins put his hand into his pocket—they left about a minute or so after that—Arnett did not go with them, she remained in the room when they went out—there was no one left in the room but me and Little—Arnett went out after them—I am a sailor—it is three months since I was at sea—I live close by the Anti-Gallican. Conolly A man snatched 3d. out of your hand for a lark; you said, "If you do not give me that 3d. it will be the worse for you," and fetched in a policeman and had me taken. Witness. Nobody took any money from me—I gave information about this job, and of course the policeman took you—I did not offer to put 2d. to your 2d. for a pot of porter—I was never in your company that evening—Arnett's—husband had nothing to do with me that evening. ELIZABATH BUCKMASTER . My husband keeps the Roebuck in Tooley-street—I remember Little and Vallance coming—they had drink—Little paid for it out of a green purse, rather bulky, which he kept in his breast pocket—he changed a sovereign—I did not see him leave. JOSHUA GOLDEN (policrnian, M 87). On 8th Nov., between five and six o'clock, I was on duty in Tooley-street, and saw Vallance part with Little at the corner of Parish-street—Little went into a cheesemonger's shop—John Collins was standing opposite watching him—he saw me watching him, joined another man, and both went into the Anti-Gallican—I spoke to two of my sergeants, and while doing so saw Little leave the shop—I heard of the robbery that evening—on the Friday night Campbell gave me information, and I took John Collins. Cross-examined. Q. In what state was Little?A. He had been drinking but was quite conscious of what he was doing—he walked quite erect—he bought some meat in the shop—the man who Collins joined was Ringrose, who is not in custody—other people were in the street, but I saw no one standing looking but Collins. HENRY HUNT (policeman, M 82). On 12th Nov. I took Daniel Collins, in Tooley-street—I told him it was for being concerned with his brother, who was remanded—he said what his brother had done was nothing to do with him—in going to the station I said, "You have been buying some new clothes"—he said, "What new clothes?—I said, "A jacket and a pair of boots"—he said, "This jacket I have had three months, and can't a fellow afford to buy a pair of boots out of 1l. a week?"—it was not a new jacket, but different to what I had been in the habit of seeing him in—he asked where his brother was—I said I believed he was at Horsemonger-lane—he said, "I have not seen him this fortnight." CATHERINE HOLT . I am the wife of William Holt, who keeps the Colonel Wardell, in Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., about twelve o'clock, as we were clearing the house Conolly came and got change of a sovereign from me—about twenty minutes before that, I found a drunken sailor by my door quite insensible—two constables had him—I took him into my house and gave him such lodgings as I could—it turned out to be Little—a policeman searched him—I saw nothing found but a few papers and a piece of whipcord—he went asleep on the form—he went away in the morning before I was down—he was so drunk I could make nothing of him. JOHN WEBB . I keep a lodging-house in Pump-court, Vine-yard, opposite the Anti-Gallican. On 8th Nov., between ten and eleven o'clock at night, a sailor was brought to my place by John and Daniel Collins—his head was down—I could not see his features—he appeared very drunk, and I refused to take him in—next day I went with Daniel Collins to buy a pair of shoes—he paid 6s. 6d. for them, and bought a jacket for 4s. 6d. John Collins. Q. Did not Campbell help to take the man away?A. Yes, he came with them and went away with them—I said that before the Magistrate. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL re-examined. I only went outside the door the same as Webb did himself—I was there when the party came in—I live there. MR. METCALFE to JOHN WEBB. Q. Did Campbell live in the house? A. Occasionally—Conolly lodged there—Campbell was away at the Anti-Gallican with them and came back with them. GEORGE WALKER JUDGE (Thames police-inspector). I produce a certificate of Conolly's conviction—I was present at his trial—he is the person mentioned in it—(read—Convicted Nov. 1843, and confined one month). JOHN COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 22. DANIEL COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 19. CONOLLY— GUILTY . Aged 23. RAGAN— GUILTY . Aged 23. Transported for Ten Years. | CONOLLY, John (I1728)
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| 84 | 184. JOHN COLLINS, DANIEL COLLINS, JOHN CONOLLY , and JOHN RAGAN , stealing 1 purse, value 6d., and 18 sovereigns, the property of James Little, from his person; Conolly having been before convicted. MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution. JAMES LITTLE . I am a seaman, and was paid off at Sheerness on 7th Nov.—I received 27l. for about three years' service—I arrived at London-bridge about two o'clock, on 8th Nov., by steam-boat—I then had 19l. in gold and some silver in my pocket, in a green silk purse, with two bright steel rings on it—Vallance rowed me over to Tooley-street, and two of my shipmates—he took my bag to the Roacbuck, and went with them to the railway—he returned, and we had a pot of beer and half a pint of rum between us in the tap-room—I left my bag of clothes at the bar, and left the Roebuck—I had changed a sovereign at the bar to pay for the drink I had, and then had eighteen sovereigns left—I put the purse in my breast, between my two Ciurnsey shirts—I had engaged a bed at the Roebuck—I was not there more than an nour and a half—I went out with Vallancc—he wished me to go home with him—we went to the Horse and Cart public-house, in Tooley-street, and had some more beer—I walked with him to Parish-street—I parted with him in the street, and turned to go back to the Roebuck—I went into a shop in Tooley street and boughtt some bread and meat—John Collins and Conolly came up—Conully said, "Old follow, you shall not be lost; my mother keeps beds, and you shall come along with me, and shall have a good bed, and shall not bo lost; you shall not be astray"—I went with them into a public-house in Tooley-street—we had the bread and meat, and I gave them plenty of beer, and some gin afterwards—I was going away—Conolly said, "You shall not go yet, I (or we) will stand a pot of beer"—a pot of half-and-half was called tor—it was placed on the table—one of them said to me, "Get up, old fellow, and drink hearty before we go"—I got up and took a hearty draught from the pot—neither of them drank any—in a little time Conolly said, "Come, drink, and let us go"—I took hold of the pot a second time, and saw that the beer was not like what I had seen, it was somewhat like milk, but I took another draught—I called a cab, and we all drove home to go to Conolly's mother's—I felt my money safe in the cab—I was driven to any place they thought proper—we got out of the cab, and I began to feel myself rather dead—we stopped at the Anti-Gallican, went in, and had some more beer—they helped me out of the cab, because I felt myself too far gone—one of them sat on each side of me; and while we sat there drinking some beer, it overcame me altogether, and I went to sleep—there was no one but those two drinking with me—we had nothing but beer there—en the following morning I found myself lying in a nasty, dirty, wet alley, my clothes unbuttoned, my pockets turned, my purse and everything gone—I had some loose money, as well as that in the purse, and a tobacco-box. Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. What time did you get to the Roebuck? A. Between four and five o'clock in the afternoon—it was not much after six when I left—I was not very drunk while I was in the prisoners' company—I did not see the beer poured out which they told me to drink hearty of—it was brought in by some servant. JURY. Q. Did either of the prisoners handle the pot before you drank? A. No—I do not know whether they had any opportunity of putting anything in—I did not see either of them go out to order it. NORAH ARNETT . I am an unfortunate girl, and live in Unicorn-square, Southwark. On the night of 8th Nov., about eight o'clock, I went into the Anti-Gallican, and saw the four prisoners, and several others—I saw-Little and Campbell sitting, drinking, in the same box with the prisoners—they had a pot of half-and-half when I went in—it was full—they had emptied one—they called for another—Little pulled out a purse from inside his breast, and paid 6d.—he was a little the worse for liquor—he retained the purse in his hand—I did not see him return it to his breast—he took out some half-pence, and paid for the half-and-half—the prisoners all went out in a very few minutes—I knew them all, using the house—Campbell and Little remained, finishing the half-and-half—there were some more young men in the place, but not in the same box—Little called some of them to have some of the half-and-half—he was then the worse for liquor. Cross-examined. Q. You did not see the purse leave his hand? A. No—lie-. at with his side to me—I am not mistaken in Conolly; I knew them all. THOMAS VALLANCE . I am a waterman, of Pear-street, Horsleydown. On Sth Nov. I rowed Little from a steamboat at London-bridge over to the Tooley-street side—he inquired of me for a lodging—it was then a quarter-past two o'clock—he had two petty-officers belonging to a man-of-war with him—I took him to the railway—he waited at the foot of London-bridge, and I took him to the Roebuck—he paid me for my job, and stood a drop of something to drink—I offered to take him home to tea—we went down Today-street, to Belt's houie, and Lad two pots of half-and-half; then we went to the King of Prussia; we had nothing there—lie declined to go home with me to tea, but said he would go back to where Ins bag was—I was to be there in the morning to take him to the railway—next morning I found him King at the Rucbuek, in a basket of cinders, almost dead—he never awoke till lour o'clock in the after noon—I could not beat any senses into him—he had only got me, that was in his right pocket. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL . I lodged at earns lodging-house, Vine-yard, Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., between six and stun o'clock, I saw Daniel Collins—he came our to me of Events miss, and and, Come and have a drop of beer"—I said I did not mind—we went to the Anti-Gallican, and saw Little, in a box in the tap-room, with Conolly on one side, and John Collins on the other—in a few minutes Daniel Collins went over to the box where Little was, sat down, and joined the rest—in a few minutes Ragan came in—he stood a listle at the side of the box, about ten minutes, and then sat down in the same box with them—Daniel Collins asked some of the parties in the room to drink—he did not ask me—I did not drink with them, only when I went in—I saw Arnett come in—Little was every much intoxicated—Daniel Collins lifted a pot off the table where he sat—John Collins put his hand into Little's left-hand pocket, took it out, put it into his breast, pulled it out shut, and slid he had got the skin—Ragan then said, "Come and have a drop of gin, boys"—the four prisoners walked out, and a man whom they call Conolly Collins—I was not in it, I only saw it done—I remained in the, tap-room a few minutes—Little got up, felt himself all over, said, "My money is all gone!" and rapped on the table—I went out, and saw no more—on the Friday I saw Daniel Collins with a new jacket and a new pair of shoes—I did not speak to him, he was not near me; but in the evening I asked him where he got them—he said he pot a sovereign from his father, and vent and bought them—I said, "You got something out of that lot that was one last night, I suppose?"—he denied it—I sau him receive two half-crowns rom a woman that night. Cross-examined. Q. What time did you go into the Anti-Gallican? A. Between six and seven o'clock—I stayed about half an hour—I afterwards went home and went to bed—I came from home to the Anti-Gallican—I had only drunk one drop—a pot was handed to me by a party in the room when I went in—I am sure I did not go into this box at all—I saw Arnett standing at the table—that table was opposite to me—it goes right across the. room from the door—it was the same table—I sat opposite, and saw all about it—she was a considerable distance from them all the time, and I was further off than she was—I saw Little pull some money out of his left pocket to pay for liquor—I did not see him pull his purse out—that might be half an hour before the prisoners left—it was before I saw John Collins put his hand into his pocket—they left about a minute or so after that—Arnett did not go with them, she remained in the room when they went out—there was no one left in the room but me and Little—Arnett went out after them—I am a sailor—it is three months since I was at sea—I live close by the Anti-Gallican. Conolly A man snatched 3d. out of your hand for a lark; you said, "If you do not give me that 3d. it will be the worse for you," and fetched in a policeman and had me taken. Witness. Nobody took any money from me—I gave information about this job, and of course the policeman took you—I did not offer to put 2d. to your 2d. for a pot of porter—I was never in your company that evening—Arnett's—husband had nothing to do with me that evening. ELIZABATH BUCKMASTER . My husband keeps the Roebuck in Tooley-street—I remember Little and Vallance coming—they had drink—Little paid for it out of a green purse, rather bulky, which he kept in his breast pocket—he changed a sovereign—I did not see him leave. JOSHUA GOLDEN (policrnian, M 87). On 8th Nov., between five and six o'clock, I was on duty in Tooley-street, and saw Vallance part with Little at the corner of Parish-street—Little went into a cheesemonger's shop—John Collins was standing opposite watching him—he saw me watching him, joined another man, and both went into the Anti-Gallican—I spoke to two of my sergeants, and while doing so saw Little leave the shop—I heard of the robbery that evening—on the Friday night Campbell gave me information, and I took John Collins. Cross-examined. Q. In what state was Little?A. He had been drinking but was quite conscious of what he was doing—he walked quite erect—he bought some meat in the shop—the man who Collins joined was Ringrose, who is not in custody—other people were in the street, but I saw no one standing looking but Collins. HENRY HUNT (policeman, M 82). On 12th Nov. I took Daniel Collins, in Tooley-street—I told him it was for being concerned with his brother, who was remanded—he said what his brother had done was nothing to do with him—in going to the station I said, "You have been buying some new clothes"—he said, "What new clothes?—I said, "A jacket and a pair of boots"—he said, "This jacket I have had three months, and can't a fellow afford to buy a pair of boots out of 1l. a week?"—it was not a new jacket, but different to what I had been in the habit of seeing him in—he asked where his brother was—I said I believed he was at Horsemonger-lane—he said, "I have not seen him this fortnight." CATHERINE HOLT . I am the wife of William Holt, who keeps the Colonel Wardell, in Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., about twelve o'clock, as we were clearing the house Conolly came and got change of a sovereign from me—about twenty minutes before that, I found a drunken sailor by my door quite insensible—two constables had him—I took him into my house and gave him such lodgings as I could—it turned out to be Little—a policeman searched him—I saw nothing found but a few papers and a piece of whipcord—he went asleep on the form—he went away in the morning before I was down—he was so drunk I could make nothing of him. JOHN WEBB . I keep a lodging-house in Pump-court, Vine-yard, opposite the Anti-Gallican. On 8th Nov., between ten and eleven o'clock at night, a sailor was brought to my place by John and Daniel Collins—his head was down—I could not see his features—he appeared very drunk, and I refused to take him in—next day I went with Daniel Collins to buy a pair of shoes—he paid 6s. 6d. for them, and bought a jacket for 4s. 6d. John Collins. Q. Did not Campbell help to take the man away?A. Yes, he came with them and went away with them—I said that before the Magistrate. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL re-examined. I only went outside the door the same as Webb did himself—I was there when the party came in—I live there. MR. METCALFE to JOHN WEBB. Q. Did Campbell live in the house? A. Occasionally—Conolly lodged there—Campbell was away at the Anti-Gallican with them and came back with them. GEORGE WALKER JUDGE (Thames police-inspector). I produce a certificate of Conolly's conviction—I was present at his trial—he is the person mentioned in it—(read—Convicted Nov. 1843, and confined one month). JOHN COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 22. DANIEL COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 19. CONOLLY— GUILTY . Aged 23. RAGAN— GUILTY . Aged 23. Transported for Ten Years. | RAGAN, John (I1729)
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| 85 | 184. JOHN COLLINS, DANIEL COLLINS, JOHN CONOLLY , and JOHN RAGAN , stealing 1 purse, value 6d., and 18 sovereigns, the property of James Little, from his person; Conolly having been before convicted. MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution. JAMES LITTLE . I am a seaman, and was paid off at Sheerness on 7th Nov.—I received 27l. for about three years' service—I arrived at London-bridge about two o'clock, on 8th Nov., by steam-boat—I then had 19l. in gold and some silver in my pocket, in a green silk purse, with two bright steel rings on it—Vallance rowed me over to Tooley-street, and two of my shipmates—he took my bag to the Roacbuck, and went with them to the railway—he returned, and we had a pot of beer and half a pint of rum between us in the tap-room—I left my bag of clothes at the bar, and left the Roebuck—I had changed a sovereign at the bar to pay for the drink I had, and then had eighteen sovereigns left—I put the purse in my breast, between my two Ciurnsey shirts—I had engaged a bed at the Roebuck—I was not there more than an nour and a half—I went out with Vallancc—he wished me to go home with him—we went to the Horse and Cart public-house, in Tooley-street, and had some more beer—I walked with him to Parish-street—I parted with him in the street, and turned to go back to the Roebuck—I went into a shop in Tooley street and boughtt some bread and meat—John Collins and Conolly came up—Conully said, "Old follow, you shall not be lost; my mother keeps beds, and you shall come along with me, and shall have a good bed, and shall not bo lost; you shall not be astray"—I went with them into a public-house in Tooley-street—we had the bread and meat, and I gave them plenty of beer, and some gin afterwards—I was going away—Conolly said, "You shall not go yet, I (or we) will stand a pot of beer"—a pot of half-and-half was called tor—it was placed on the table—one of them said to me, "Get up, old fellow, and drink hearty before we go"—I got up and took a hearty draught from the pot—neither of them drank any—in a little time Conolly said, "Come, drink, and let us go"—I took hold of the pot a second time, and saw that the beer was not like what I had seen, it was somewhat like milk, but I took another draught—I called a cab, and we all drove home to go to Conolly's mother's—I felt my money safe in the cab—I was driven to any place they thought proper—we got out of the cab, and I began to feel myself rather dead—we stopped at the Anti-Gallican, went in, and had some more beer—they helped me out of the cab, because I felt myself too far gone—one of them sat on each side of me; and while we sat there drinking some beer, it overcame me altogether, and I went to sleep—there was no one but those two drinking with me—we had nothing but beer there—en the following morning I found myself lying in a nasty, dirty, wet alley, my clothes unbuttoned, my pockets turned, my purse and everything gone—I had some loose money, as well as that in the purse, and a tobacco-box. Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. What time did you get to the Roebuck? A. Between four and five o'clock in the afternoon—it was not much after six when I left—I was not very drunk while I was in the prisoners' company—I did not see the beer poured out which they told me to drink hearty of—it was brought in by some servant. JURY. Q. Did either of the prisoners handle the pot before you drank? A. No—I do not know whether they had any opportunity of putting anything in—I did not see either of them go out to order it. NORAH ARNETT . I am an unfortunate girl, and live in Unicorn-square, Southwark. On the night of 8th Nov., about eight o'clock, I went into the Anti-Gallican, and saw the four prisoners, and several others—I saw-Little and Campbell sitting, drinking, in the same box with the prisoners—they had a pot of half-and-half when I went in—it was full—they had emptied one—they called for another—Little pulled out a purse from inside his breast, and paid 6d.—he was a little the worse for liquor—he retained the purse in his hand—I did not see him return it to his breast—he took out some half-pence, and paid for the half-and-half—the prisoners all went out in a very few minutes—I knew them all, using the house—Campbell and Little remained, finishing the half-and-half—there were some more young men in the place, but not in the same box—Little called some of them to have some of the half-and-half—he was then the worse for liquor. Cross-examined. Q. You did not see the purse leave his hand? A. No—lie-. at with his side to me—I am not mistaken in Conolly; I knew them all. THOMAS VALLANCE . I am a waterman, of Pear-street, Horsleydown. On Sth Nov. I rowed Little from a steamboat at London-bridge over to the Tooley-street side—he inquired of me for a lodging—it was then a quarter-past two o'clock—he had two petty-officers belonging to a man-of-war with him—I took him to the railway—he waited at the foot of London-bridge, and I took him to the Roebuck—he paid me for my job, and stood a drop of something to drink—I offered to take him home to tea—we went down Today-street, to Belt's houie, and Lad two pots of half-and-half; then we went to the King of Prussia; we had nothing there—lie declined to go home with me to tea, but said he would go back to where Ins bag was—I was to be there in the morning to take him to the railway—next morning I found him King at the Rucbuek, in a basket of cinders, almost dead—he never awoke till lour o'clock in the after noon—I could not beat any senses into him—he had only got me, that was in his right pocket. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL . I lodged at earns lodging-house, Vine-yard, Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., between six and stun o'clock, I saw Daniel Collins—he came our to me of Events miss, and and, Come and have a drop of beer"—I said I did not mind—we went to the Anti-Gallican, and saw Little, in a box in the tap-room, with Conolly on one side, and John Collins on the other—in a few minutes Daniel Collins went over to the box where Little was, sat down, and joined the rest—in a few minutes Ragan came in—he stood a listle at the side of the box, about ten minutes, and then sat down in the same box with them—Daniel Collins asked some of the parties in the room to drink—he did not ask me—I did not drink with them, only when I went in—I saw Arnett come in—Little was every much intoxicated—Daniel Collins lifted a pot off the table where he sat—John Collins put his hand into Little's left-hand pocket, took it out, put it into his breast, pulled it out shut, and slid he had got the skin—Ragan then said, "Come and have a drop of gin, boys"—the four prisoners walked out, and a man whom they call Conolly Collins—I was not in it, I only saw it done—I remained in the, tap-room a few minutes—Little got up, felt himself all over, said, "My money is all gone!" and rapped on the table—I went out, and saw no more—on the Friday I saw Daniel Collins with a new jacket and a new pair of shoes—I did not speak to him, he was not near me; but in the evening I asked him where he got them—he said he pot a sovereign from his father, and vent and bought them—I said, "You got something out of that lot that was one last night, I suppose?"—he denied it—I sau him receive two half-crowns rom a woman that night. Cross-examined. Q. What time did you go into the Anti-Gallican? A. Between six and seven o'clock—I stayed about half an hour—I afterwards went home and went to bed—I came from home to the Anti-Gallican—I had only drunk one drop—a pot was handed to me by a party in the room when I went in—I am sure I did not go into this box at all—I saw Arnett standing at the table—that table was opposite to me—it goes right across the. room from the door—it was the same table—I sat opposite, and saw all about it—she was a considerable distance from them all the time, and I was further off than she was—I saw Little pull some money out of his left pocket to pay for liquor—I did not see him pull his purse out—that might be half an hour before the prisoners left—it was before I saw John Collins put his hand into his pocket—they left about a minute or so after that—Arnett did not go with them, she remained in the room when they went out—there was no one left in the room but me and Little—Arnett went out after them—I am a sailor—it is three months since I was at sea—I live close by the Anti-Gallican. Conolly A man snatched 3d. out of your hand for a lark; you said, "If you do not give me that 3d. it will be the worse for you," and fetched in a policeman and had me taken. Witness. Nobody took any money from me—I gave information about this job, and of course the policeman took you—I did not offer to put 2d. to your 2d. for a pot of porter—I was never in your company that evening—Arnett's—husband had nothing to do with me that evening. ELIZABATH BUCKMASTER . My husband keeps the Roebuck in Tooley-street—I remember Little and Vallance coming—they had drink—Little paid for it out of a green purse, rather bulky, which he kept in his breast pocket—he changed a sovereign—I did not see him leave. JOSHUA GOLDEN (policrnian, M 87). On 8th Nov., between five and six o'clock, I was on duty in Tooley-street, and saw Vallance part with Little at the corner of Parish-street—Little went into a cheesemonger's shop—John Collins was standing opposite watching him—he saw me watching him, joined another man, and both went into the Anti-Gallican—I spoke to two of my sergeants, and while doing so saw Little leave the shop—I heard of the robbery that evening—on the Friday night Campbell gave me information, and I took John Collins. Cross-examined. Q. In what state was Little?A. He had been drinking but was quite conscious of what he was doing—he walked quite erect—he bought some meat in the shop—the man who Collins joined was Ringrose, who is not in custody—other people were in the street, but I saw no one standing looking but Collins. HENRY HUNT (policeman, M 82). On 12th Nov. I took Daniel Collins, in Tooley-street—I told him it was for being concerned with his brother, who was remanded—he said what his brother had done was nothing to do with him—in going to the station I said, "You have been buying some new clothes"—he said, "What new clothes?—I said, "A jacket and a pair of boots"—he said, "This jacket I have had three months, and can't a fellow afford to buy a pair of boots out of 1l. a week?"—it was not a new jacket, but different to what I had been in the habit of seeing him in—he asked where his brother was—I said I believed he was at Horsemonger-lane—he said, "I have not seen him this fortnight." CATHERINE HOLT . I am the wife of William Holt, who keeps the Colonel Wardell, in Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., about twelve o'clock, as we were clearing the house Conolly came and got change of a sovereign from me—about twenty minutes before that, I found a drunken sailor by my door quite insensible—two constables had him—I took him into my house and gave him such lodgings as I could—it turned out to be Little—a policeman searched him—I saw nothing found but a few papers and a piece of whipcord—he went asleep on the form—he went away in the morning before I was down—he was so drunk I could make nothing of him. JOHN WEBB . I keep a lodging-house in Pump-court, Vine-yard, opposite the Anti-Gallican. On 8th Nov., between ten and eleven o'clock at night, a sailor was brought to my place by John and Daniel Collins—his head was down—I could not see his features—he appeared very drunk, and I refused to take him in—next day I went with Daniel Collins to buy a pair of shoes—he paid 6s. 6d. for them, and bought a jacket for 4s. 6d. John Collins. Q. Did not Campbell help to take the man away?A. Yes, he came with them and went away with them—I said that before the Magistrate. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL re-examined. I only went outside the door the same as Webb did himself—I was there when the party came in—I live there. MR. METCALFE to JOHN WEBB. Q. Did Campbell live in the house? A. Occasionally—Conolly lodged there—Campbell was away at the Anti-Gallican with them and came back with them. GEORGE WALKER JUDGE (Thames police-inspector). I produce a certificate of Conolly's conviction—I was present at his trial—he is the person mentioned in it—(read—Convicted Nov. 1843, and confined one month). JOHN COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 22. DANIEL COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 19. CONOLLY— GUILTY . Aged 23. RAGAN— GUILTY . Aged 23. Transported for Ten Years. | COLLINS, John (I1725)
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| 86 | 184. JOHN COLLINS, DANIEL COLLINS, JOHN CONOLLY , and JOHN RAGAN , stealing 1 purse, value 6d., and 18 sovereigns, the property of James Little, from his person; Conolly having been before convicted. MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution. JAMES LITTLE . I am a seaman, and was paid off at Sheerness on 7th Nov.—I received 27l. for about three years' service—I arrived at London-bridge about two o'clock, on 8th Nov., by steam-boat—I then had 19l. in gold and some silver in my pocket, in a green silk purse, with two bright steel rings on it—Vallance rowed me over to Tooley-street, and two of my shipmates—he took my bag to the Roacbuck, and went with them to the railway—he returned, and we had a pot of beer and half a pint of rum between us in the tap-room—I left my bag of clothes at the bar, and left the Roebuck—I had changed a sovereign at the bar to pay for the drink I had, and then had eighteen sovereigns left—I put the purse in my breast, between my two Ciurnsey shirts—I had engaged a bed at the Roebuck—I was not there more than an nour and a half—I went out with Vallancc—he wished me to go home with him—we went to the Horse and Cart public-house, in Tooley-street, and had some more beer—I walked with him to Parish-street—I parted with him in the street, and turned to go back to the Roebuck—I went into a shop in Tooley street and boughtt some bread and meat—John Collins and Conolly came up—Conully said, "Old follow, you shall not be lost; my mother keeps beds, and you shall come along with me, and shall have a good bed, and shall not bo lost; you shall not be astray"—I went with them into a public-house in Tooley-street—we had the bread and meat, and I gave them plenty of beer, and some gin afterwards—I was going away—Conolly said, "You shall not go yet, I (or we) will stand a pot of beer"—a pot of half-and-half was called tor—it was placed on the table—one of them said to me, "Get up, old fellow, and drink hearty before we go"—I got up and took a hearty draught from the pot—neither of them drank any—in a little time Conolly said, "Come, drink, and let us go"—I took hold of the pot a second time, and saw that the beer was not like what I had seen, it was somewhat like milk, but I took another draught—I called a cab, and we all drove home to go to Conolly's mother's—I felt my money safe in the cab—I was driven to any place they thought proper—we got out of the cab, and I began to feel myself rather dead—we stopped at the Anti-Gallican, went in, and had some more beer—they helped me out of the cab, because I felt myself too far gone—one of them sat on each side of me; and while we sat there drinking some beer, it overcame me altogether, and I went to sleep—there was no one but those two drinking with me—we had nothing but beer there—en the following morning I found myself lying in a nasty, dirty, wet alley, my clothes unbuttoned, my pockets turned, my purse and everything gone—I had some loose money, as well as that in the purse, and a tobacco-box. Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. What time did you get to the Roebuck? A. Between four and five o'clock in the afternoon—it was not much after six when I left—I was not very drunk while I was in the prisoners' company—I did not see the beer poured out which they told me to drink hearty of—it was brought in by some servant. JURY. Q. Did either of the prisoners handle the pot before you drank? A. No—I do not know whether they had any opportunity of putting anything in—I did not see either of them go out to order it. NORAH ARNETT . I am an unfortunate girl, and live in Unicorn-square, Southwark. On the night of 8th Nov., about eight o'clock, I went into the Anti-Gallican, and saw the four prisoners, and several others—I saw-Little and Campbell sitting, drinking, in the same box with the prisoners—they had a pot of half-and-half when I went in—it was full—they had emptied one—they called for another—Little pulled out a purse from inside his breast, and paid 6d.—he was a little the worse for liquor—he retained the purse in his hand—I did not see him return it to his breast—he took out some half-pence, and paid for the half-and-half—the prisoners all went out in a very few minutes—I knew them all, using the house—Campbell and Little remained, finishing the half-and-half—there were some more young men in the place, but not in the same box—Little called some of them to have some of the half-and-half—he was then the worse for liquor. Cross-examined. Q. You did not see the purse leave his hand? A. No—lie-. at with his side to me—I am not mistaken in Conolly; I knew them all. THOMAS VALLANCE . I am a waterman, of Pear-street, Horsleydown. On Sth Nov. I rowed Little from a steamboat at London-bridge over to the Tooley-street side—he inquired of me for a lodging—it was then a quarter-past two o'clock—he had two petty-officers belonging to a man-of-war with him—I took him to the railway—he waited at the foot of London-bridge, and I took him to the Roebuck—he paid me for my job, and stood a drop of something to drink—I offered to take him home to tea—we went down Today-street, to Belt's houie, and Lad two pots of half-and-half; then we went to the King of Prussia; we had nothing there—lie declined to go home with me to tea, but said he would go back to where Ins bag was—I was to be there in the morning to take him to the railway—next morning I found him King at the Rucbuek, in a basket of cinders, almost dead—he never awoke till lour o'clock in the after noon—I could not beat any senses into him—he had only got me, that was in his right pocket. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL . I lodged at earns lodging-house, Vine-yard, Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., between six and stun o'clock, I saw Daniel Collins—he came our to me of Events miss, and and, Come and have a drop of beer"—I said I did not mind—we went to the Anti-Gallican, and saw Little, in a box in the tap-room, with Conolly on one side, and John Collins on the other—in a few minutes Daniel Collins went over to the box where Little was, sat down, and joined the rest—in a few minutes Ragan came in—he stood a listle at the side of the box, about ten minutes, and then sat down in the same box with them—Daniel Collins asked some of the parties in the room to drink—he did not ask me—I did not drink with them, only when I went in—I saw Arnett come in—Little was every much intoxicated—Daniel Collins lifted a pot off the table where he sat—John Collins put his hand into Little's left-hand pocket, took it out, put it into his breast, pulled it out shut, and slid he had got the skin—Ragan then said, "Come and have a drop of gin, boys"—the four prisoners walked out, and a man whom they call Conolly Collins—I was not in it, I only saw it done—I remained in the, tap-room a few minutes—Little got up, felt himself all over, said, "My money is all gone!" and rapped on the table—I went out, and saw no more—on the Friday I saw Daniel Collins with a new jacket and a new pair of shoes—I did not speak to him, he was not near me; but in the evening I asked him where he got them—he said he pot a sovereign from his father, and vent and bought them—I said, "You got something out of that lot that was one last night, I suppose?"—he denied it—I sau him receive two half-crowns rom a woman that night. Cross-examined. Q. What time did you go into the Anti-Gallican? A. Between six and seven o'clock—I stayed about half an hour—I afterwards went home and went to bed—I came from home to the Anti-Gallican—I had only drunk one drop—a pot was handed to me by a party in the room when I went in—I am sure I did not go into this box at all—I saw Arnett standing at the table—that table was opposite to me—it goes right across the. room from the door—it was the same table—I sat opposite, and saw all about it—she was a considerable distance from them all the time, and I was further off than she was—I saw Little pull some money out of his left pocket to pay for liquor—I did not see him pull his purse out—that might be half an hour before the prisoners left—it was before I saw John Collins put his hand into his pocket—they left about a minute or so after that—Arnett did not go with them, she remained in the room when they went out—there was no one left in the room but me and Little—Arnett went out after them—I am a sailor—it is three months since I was at sea—I live close by the Anti-Gallican. Conolly A man snatched 3d. out of your hand for a lark; you said, "If you do not give me that 3d. it will be the worse for you," and fetched in a policeman and had me taken. Witness. Nobody took any money from me—I gave information about this job, and of course the policeman took you—I did not offer to put 2d. to your 2d. for a pot of porter—I was never in your company that evening—Arnett's—husband had nothing to do with me that evening. ELIZABATH BUCKMASTER . My husband keeps the Roebuck in Tooley-street—I remember Little and Vallance coming—they had drink—Little paid for it out of a green purse, rather bulky, which he kept in his breast pocket—he changed a sovereign—I did not see him leave. JOSHUA GOLDEN (policrnian, M 87). On 8th Nov., between five and six o'clock, I was on duty in Tooley-street, and saw Vallance part with Little at the corner of Parish-street—Little went into a cheesemonger's shop—John Collins was standing opposite watching him—he saw me watching him, joined another man, and both went into the Anti-Gallican—I spoke to two of my sergeants, and while doing so saw Little leave the shop—I heard of the robbery that evening—on the Friday night Campbell gave me information, and I took John Collins. Cross-examined. Q. In what state was Little?A. He had been drinking but was quite conscious of what he was doing—he walked quite erect—he bought some meat in the shop—the man who Collins joined was Ringrose, who is not in custody—other people were in the street, but I saw no one standing looking but Collins. HENRY HUNT (policeman, M 82). On 12th Nov. I took Daniel Collins, in Tooley-street—I told him it was for being concerned with his brother, who was remanded—he said what his brother had done was nothing to do with him—in going to the station I said, "You have been buying some new clothes"—he said, "What new clothes?—I said, "A jacket and a pair of boots"—he said, "This jacket I have had three months, and can't a fellow afford to buy a pair of boots out of 1l. a week?"—it was not a new jacket, but different to what I had been in the habit of seeing him in—he asked where his brother was—I said I believed he was at Horsemonger-lane—he said, "I have not seen him this fortnight." CATHERINE HOLT . I am the wife of William Holt, who keeps the Colonel Wardell, in Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., about twelve o'clock, as we were clearing the house Conolly came and got change of a sovereign from me—about twenty minutes before that, I found a drunken sailor by my door quite insensible—two constables had him—I took him into my house and gave him such lodgings as I could—it turned out to be Little—a policeman searched him—I saw nothing found but a few papers and a piece of whipcord—he went asleep on the form—he went away in the morning before I was down—he was so drunk I could make nothing of him. JOHN WEBB . I keep a lodging-house in Pump-court, Vine-yard, opposite the Anti-Gallican. On 8th Nov., between ten and eleven o'clock at night, a sailor was brought to my place by John and Daniel Collins—his head was down—I could not see his features—he appeared very drunk, and I refused to take him in—next day I went with Daniel Collins to buy a pair of shoes—he paid 6s. 6d. for them, and bought a jacket for 4s. 6d. John Collins. Q. Did not Campbell help to take the man away?A. Yes, he came with them and went away with them—I said that before the Magistrate. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL re-examined. I only went outside the door the same as Webb did himself—I was there when the party came in—I live there. MR. METCALFE to JOHN WEBB. Q. Did Campbell live in the house? A. Occasionally—Conolly lodged there—Campbell was away at the Anti-Gallican with them and came back with them. GEORGE WALKER JUDGE (Thames police-inspector). I produce a certificate of Conolly's conviction—I was present at his trial—he is the person mentioned in it—(read—Convicted Nov. 1843, and confined one month). JOHN COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 22. DANIEL COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 19. CONOLLY— GUILTY . Aged 23. RAGAN— GUILTY . Aged 23. Transported for Ten Years. | COLLINS, Daniel (I1727)
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| 87 | 184. JOHN COLLINS, DANIEL COLLINS, JOHN CONOLLY , and JOHN RAGAN , stealing 1 purse, value 6d., and 18 sovereigns, the property of James Little, from his person; Conolly having been before convicted. MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution. JAMES LITTLE . I am a seaman, and was paid off at Sheerness on 7th Nov.—I received 27l. for about three years' service—I arrived at London-bridge about two o'clock, on 8th Nov., by steam-boat—I then had 19l. in gold and some silver in my pocket, in a green silk purse, with two bright steel rings on it—Vallance rowed me over to Tooley-street, and two of my shipmates—he took my bag to the Roacbuck, and went with them to the railway—he returned, and we had a pot of beer and half a pint of rum between us in the tap-room—I left my bag of clothes at the bar, and left the Roebuck—I had changed a sovereign at the bar to pay for the drink I had, and then had eighteen sovereigns left—I put the purse in my breast, between my two Ciurnsey shirts—I had engaged a bed at the Roebuck—I was not there more than an nour and a half—I went out with Vallancc—he wished me to go home with him—we went to the Horse and Cart public-house, in Tooley-street, and had some more beer—I walked with him to Parish-street—I parted with him in the street, and turned to go back to the Roebuck—I went into a shop in Tooley street and boughtt some bread and meat—John Collins and Conolly came up—Conully said, "Old follow, you shall not be lost; my mother keeps beds, and you shall come along with me, and shall have a good bed, and shall not bo lost; you shall not be astray"—I went with them into a public-house in Tooley-street—we had the bread and meat, and I gave them plenty of beer, and some gin afterwards—I was going away—Conolly said, "You shall not go yet, I (or we) will stand a pot of beer"—a pot of half-and-half was called tor—it was placed on the table—one of them said to me, "Get up, old fellow, and drink hearty before we go"—I got up and took a hearty draught from the pot—neither of them drank any—in a little time Conolly said, "Come, drink, and let us go"—I took hold of the pot a second time, and saw that the beer was not like what I had seen, it was somewhat like milk, but I took another draught—I called a cab, and we all drove home to go to Conolly's mother's—I felt my money safe in the cab—I was driven to any place they thought proper—we got out of the cab, and I began to feel myself rather dead—we stopped at the Anti-Gallican, went in, and had some more beer—they helped me out of the cab, because I felt myself too far gone—one of them sat on each side of me; and while we sat there drinking some beer, it overcame me altogether, and I went to sleep—there was no one but those two drinking with me—we had nothing but beer there—en the following morning I found myself lying in a nasty, dirty, wet alley, my clothes unbuttoned, my pockets turned, my purse and everything gone—I had some loose money, as well as that in the purse, and a tobacco-box. Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. What time did you get to the Roebuck? A. Between four and five o'clock in the afternoon—it was not much after six when I left—I was not very drunk while I was in the prisoners' company—I did not see the beer poured out which they told me to drink hearty of—it was brought in by some servant. JURY. Q. Did either of the prisoners handle the pot before you drank? A. No—I do not know whether they had any opportunity of putting anything in—I did not see either of them go out to order it. NORAH ARNETT . I am an unfortunate girl, and live in Unicorn-square, Southwark. On the night of 8th Nov., about eight o'clock, I went into the Anti-Gallican, and saw the four prisoners, and several others—I saw-Little and Campbell sitting, drinking, in the same box with the prisoners—they had a pot of half-and-half when I went in—it was full—they had emptied one—they called for another—Little pulled out a purse from inside his breast, and paid 6d.—he was a little the worse for liquor—he retained the purse in his hand—I did not see him return it to his breast—he took out some half-pence, and paid for the half-and-half—the prisoners all went out in a very few minutes—I knew them all, using the house—Campbell and Little remained, finishing the half-and-half—there were some more young men in the place, but not in the same box—Little called some of them to have some of the half-and-half—he was then the worse for liquor. Cross-examined. Q. You did not see the purse leave his hand? A. No—lie-. at with his side to me—I am not mistaken in Conolly; I knew them all. THOMAS VALLANCE . I am a waterman, of Pear-street, Horsleydown. On Sth Nov. I rowed Little from a steamboat at London-bridge over to the Tooley-street side—he inquired of me for a lodging—it was then a quarter-past two o'clock—he had two petty-officers belonging to a man-of-war with him—I took him to the railway—he waited at the foot of London-bridge, and I took him to the Roebuck—he paid me for my job, and stood a drop of something to drink—I offered to take him home to tea—we went down Today-street, to Belt's houie, and Lad two pots of half-and-half; then we went to the King of Prussia; we had nothing there—lie declined to go home with me to tea, but said he would go back to where Ins bag was—I was to be there in the morning to take him to the railway—next morning I found him King at the Rucbuek, in a basket of cinders, almost dead—he never awoke till lour o'clock in the after noon—I could not beat any senses into him—he had only got me, that was in his right pocket. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL . I lodged at earns lodging-house, Vine-yard, Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., between six and stun o'clock, I saw Daniel Collins—he came our to me of Events miss, and and, Come and have a drop of beer"—I said I did not mind—we went to the Anti-Gallican, and saw Little, in a box in the tap-room, with Conolly on one side, and John Collins on the other—in a few minutes Daniel Collins went over to the box where Little was, sat down, and joined the rest—in a few minutes Ragan came in—he stood a listle at the side of the box, about ten minutes, and then sat down in the same box with them—Daniel Collins asked some of the parties in the room to drink—he did not ask me—I did not drink with them, only when I went in—I saw Arnett come in—Little was every much intoxicated—Daniel Collins lifted a pot off the table where he sat—John Collins put his hand into Little's left-hand pocket, took it out, put it into his breast, pulled it out shut, and slid he had got the skin—Ragan then said, "Come and have a drop of gin, boys"—the four prisoners walked out, and a man whom they call Conolly Collins—I was not in it, I only saw it done—I remained in the, tap-room a few minutes—Little got up, felt himself all over, said, "My money is all gone!" and rapped on the table—I went out, and saw no more—on the Friday I saw Daniel Collins with a new jacket and a new pair of shoes—I did not speak to him, he was not near me; but in the evening I asked him where he got them—he said he pot a sovereign from his father, and vent and bought them—I said, "You got something out of that lot that was one last night, I suppose?"—he denied it—I sau him receive two half-crowns rom a woman that night. Cross-examined. Q. What time did you go into the Anti-Gallican? A. Between six and seven o'clock—I stayed about half an hour—I afterwards went home and went to bed—I came from home to the Anti-Gallican—I had only drunk one drop—a pot was handed to me by a party in the room when I went in—I am sure I did not go into this box at all—I saw Arnett standing at the table—that table was opposite to me—it goes right across the. room from the door—it was the same table—I sat opposite, and saw all about it—she was a considerable distance from them all the time, and I was further off than she was—I saw Little pull some money out of his left pocket to pay for liquor—I did not see him pull his purse out—that might be half an hour before the prisoners left—it was before I saw John Collins put his hand into his pocket—they left about a minute or so after that—Arnett did not go with them, she remained in the room when they went out—there was no one left in the room but me and Little—Arnett went out after them—I am a sailor—it is three months since I was at sea—I live close by the Anti-Gallican. Conolly A man snatched 3d. out of your hand for a lark; you said, "If you do not give me that 3d. it will be the worse for you," and fetched in a policeman and had me taken. Witness. Nobody took any money from me—I gave information about this job, and of course the policeman took you—I did not offer to put 2d. to your 2d. for a pot of porter—I was never in your company that evening—Arnett's—husband had nothing to do with me that evening. ELIZABATH BUCKMASTER . My husband keeps the Roebuck in Tooley-street—I remember Little and Vallance coming—they had drink—Little paid for it out of a green purse, rather bulky, which he kept in his breast pocket—he changed a sovereign—I did not see him leave. JOSHUA GOLDEN (policrnian, M 87). On 8th Nov., between five and six o'clock, I was on duty in Tooley-street, and saw Vallance part with Little at the corner of Parish-street—Little went into a cheesemonger's shop—John Collins was standing opposite watching him—he saw me watching him, joined another man, and both went into the Anti-Gallican—I spoke to two of my sergeants, and while doing so saw Little leave the shop—I heard of the robbery that evening—on the Friday night Campbell gave me information, and I took John Collins. Cross-examined. Q. In what state was Little?A. He had been drinking but was quite conscious of what he was doing—he walked quite erect—he bought some meat in the shop—the man who Collins joined was Ringrose, who is not in custody—other people were in the street, but I saw no one standing looking but Collins. HENRY HUNT (policeman, M 82). On 12th Nov. I took Daniel Collins, in Tooley-street—I told him it was for being concerned with his brother, who was remanded—he said what his brother had done was nothing to do with him—in going to the station I said, "You have been buying some new clothes"—he said, "What new clothes?—I said, "A jacket and a pair of boots"—he said, "This jacket I have had three months, and can't a fellow afford to buy a pair of boots out of 1l. a week?"—it was not a new jacket, but different to what I had been in the habit of seeing him in—he asked where his brother was—I said I believed he was at Horsemonger-lane—he said, "I have not seen him this fortnight." CATHERINE HOLT . I am the wife of William Holt, who keeps the Colonel Wardell, in Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., about twelve o'clock, as we were clearing the house Conolly came and got change of a sovereign from me—about twenty minutes before that, I found a drunken sailor by my door quite insensible—two constables had him—I took him into my house and gave him such lodgings as I could—it turned out to be Little—a policeman searched him—I saw nothing found but a few papers and a piece of whipcord—he went asleep on the form—he went away in the morning before I was down—he was so drunk I could make nothing of him. JOHN WEBB . I keep a lodging-house in Pump-court, Vine-yard, opposite the Anti-Gallican. On 8th Nov., between ten and eleven o'clock at night, a sailor was brought to my place by John and Daniel Collins—his head was down—I could not see his features—he appeared very drunk, and I refused to take him in—next day I went with Daniel Collins to buy a pair of shoes—he paid 6s. 6d. for them, and bought a jacket for 4s. 6d. John Collins. Q. Did not Campbell help to take the man away?A. Yes, he came with them and went away with them—I said that before the Magistrate. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL re-examined. I only went outside the door the same as Webb did himself—I was there when the party came in—I live there. MR. METCALFE to JOHN WEBB. Q. Did Campbell live in the house? A. Occasionally—Conolly lodged there—Campbell was away at the Anti-Gallican with them and came back with them. GEORGE WALKER JUDGE (Thames police-inspector). I produce a certificate of Conolly's conviction—I was present at his trial—he is the person mentioned in it—(read—Convicted Nov. 1843, and confined one month). JOHN COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 22. DANIEL COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 19. CONOLLY— GUILTY . Aged 23. RAGAN— GUILTY . Aged 23. Transported for Ten Years. | CONOLLY, John (I1728)
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| 88 | 184. JOHN COLLINS, DANIEL COLLINS, JOHN CONOLLY , and JOHN RAGAN , stealing 1 purse, value 6d., and 18 sovereigns, the property of James Little, from his person; Conolly having been before convicted. MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution. JAMES LITTLE . I am a seaman, and was paid off at Sheerness on 7th Nov.—I received 27l. for about three years' service—I arrived at London-bridge about two o'clock, on 8th Nov., by steam-boat—I then had 19l. in gold and some silver in my pocket, in a green silk purse, with two bright steel rings on it—Vallance rowed me over to Tooley-street, and two of my shipmates—he took my bag to the Roacbuck, and went with them to the railway—he returned, and we had a pot of beer and half a pint of rum between us in the tap-room—I left my bag of clothes at the bar, and left the Roebuck—I had changed a sovereign at the bar to pay for the drink I had, and then had eighteen sovereigns left—I put the purse in my breast, between my two Ciurnsey shirts—I had engaged a bed at the Roebuck—I was not there more than an nour and a half—I went out with Vallancc—he wished me to go home with him—we went to the Horse and Cart public-house, in Tooley-street, and had some more beer—I walked with him to Parish-street—I parted with him in the street, and turned to go back to the Roebuck—I went into a shop in Tooley street and boughtt some bread and meat—John Collins and Conolly came up—Conully said, "Old follow, you shall not be lost; my mother keeps beds, and you shall come along with me, and shall have a good bed, and shall not bo lost; you shall not be astray"—I went with them into a public-house in Tooley-street—we had the bread and meat, and I gave them plenty of beer, and some gin afterwards—I was going away—Conolly said, "You shall not go yet, I (or we) will stand a pot of beer"—a pot of half-and-half was called tor—it was placed on the table—one of them said to me, "Get up, old fellow, and drink hearty before we go"—I got up and took a hearty draught from the pot—neither of them drank any—in a little time Conolly said, "Come, drink, and let us go"—I took hold of the pot a second time, and saw that the beer was not like what I had seen, it was somewhat like milk, but I took another draught—I called a cab, and we all drove home to go to Conolly's mother's—I felt my money safe in the cab—I was driven to any place they thought proper—we got out of the cab, and I began to feel myself rather dead—we stopped at the Anti-Gallican, went in, and had some more beer—they helped me out of the cab, because I felt myself too far gone—one of them sat on each side of me; and while we sat there drinking some beer, it overcame me altogether, and I went to sleep—there was no one but those two drinking with me—we had nothing but beer there—en the following morning I found myself lying in a nasty, dirty, wet alley, my clothes unbuttoned, my pockets turned, my purse and everything gone—I had some loose money, as well as that in the purse, and a tobacco-box. Cross-examined by MR. METCALFE. Q. What time did you get to the Roebuck? A. Between four and five o'clock in the afternoon—it was not much after six when I left—I was not very drunk while I was in the prisoners' company—I did not see the beer poured out which they told me to drink hearty of—it was brought in by some servant. JURY. Q. Did either of the prisoners handle the pot before you drank? A. No—I do not know whether they had any opportunity of putting anything in—I did not see either of them go out to order it. NORAH ARNETT . I am an unfortunate girl, and live in Unicorn-square, Southwark. On the night of 8th Nov., about eight o'clock, I went into the Anti-Gallican, and saw the four prisoners, and several others—I saw-Little and Campbell sitting, drinking, in the same box with the prisoners—they had a pot of half-and-half when I went in—it was full—they had emptied one—they called for another—Little pulled out a purse from inside his breast, and paid 6d.—he was a little the worse for liquor—he retained the purse in his hand—I did not see him return it to his breast—he took out some half-pence, and paid for the half-and-half—the prisoners all went out in a very few minutes—I knew them all, using the house—Campbell and Little remained, finishing the half-and-half—there were some more young men in the place, but not in the same box—Little called some of them to have some of the half-and-half—he was then the worse for liquor. Cross-examined. Q. You did not see the purse leave his hand? A. No—lie-. at with his side to me—I am not mistaken in Conolly; I knew them all. THOMAS VALLANCE . I am a waterman, of Pear-street, Horsleydown. On Sth Nov. I rowed Little from a steamboat at London-bridge over to the Tooley-street side—he inquired of me for a lodging—it was then a quarter-past two o'clock—he had two petty-officers belonging to a man-of-war with him—I took him to the railway—he waited at the foot of London-bridge, and I took him to the Roebuck—he paid me for my job, and stood a drop of something to drink—I offered to take him home to tea—we went down Today-street, to Belt's houie, and Lad two pots of half-and-half; then we went to the King of Prussia; we had nothing there—lie declined to go home with me to tea, but said he would go back to where Ins bag was—I was to be there in the morning to take him to the railway—next morning I found him King at the Rucbuek, in a basket of cinders, almost dead—he never awoke till lour o'clock in the after noon—I could not beat any senses into him—he had only got me, that was in his right pocket. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL . I lodged at earns lodging-house, Vine-yard, Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., between six and stun o'clock, I saw Daniel Collins—he came our to me of Events miss, and and, Come and have a drop of beer"—I said I did not mind—we went to the Anti-Gallican, and saw Little, in a box in the tap-room, with Conolly on one side, and John Collins on the other—in a few minutes Daniel Collins went over to the box where Little was, sat down, and joined the rest—in a few minutes Ragan came in—he stood a listle at the side of the box, about ten minutes, and then sat down in the same box with them—Daniel Collins asked some of the parties in the room to drink—he did not ask me—I did not drink with them, only when I went in—I saw Arnett come in—Little was every much intoxicated—Daniel Collins lifted a pot off the table where he sat—John Collins put his hand into Little's left-hand pocket, took it out, put it into his breast, pulled it out shut, and slid he had got the skin—Ragan then said, "Come and have a drop of gin, boys"—the four prisoners walked out, and a man whom they call Conolly Collins—I was not in it, I only saw it done—I remained in the, tap-room a few minutes—Little got up, felt himself all over, said, "My money is all gone!" and rapped on the table—I went out, and saw no more—on the Friday I saw Daniel Collins with a new jacket and a new pair of shoes—I did not speak to him, he was not near me; but in the evening I asked him where he got them—he said he pot a sovereign from his father, and vent and bought them—I said, "You got something out of that lot that was one last night, I suppose?"—he denied it—I sau him receive two half-crowns rom a woman that night. Cross-examined. Q. What time did you go into the Anti-Gallican? A. Between six and seven o'clock—I stayed about half an hour—I afterwards went home and went to bed—I came from home to the Anti-Gallican—I had only drunk one drop—a pot was handed to me by a party in the room when I went in—I am sure I did not go into this box at all—I saw Arnett standing at the table—that table was opposite to me—it goes right across the. room from the door—it was the same table—I sat opposite, and saw all about it—she was a considerable distance from them all the time, and I was further off than she was—I saw Little pull some money out of his left pocket to pay for liquor—I did not see him pull his purse out—that might be half an hour before the prisoners left—it was before I saw John Collins put his hand into his pocket—they left about a minute or so after that—Arnett did not go with them, she remained in the room when they went out—there was no one left in the room but me and Little—Arnett went out after them—I am a sailor—it is three months since I was at sea—I live close by the Anti-Gallican. Conolly A man snatched 3d. out of your hand for a lark; you said, "If you do not give me that 3d. it will be the worse for you," and fetched in a policeman and had me taken. Witness. Nobody took any money from me—I gave information about this job, and of course the policeman took you—I did not offer to put 2d. to your 2d. for a pot of porter—I was never in your company that evening—Arnett's—husband had nothing to do with me that evening. ELIZABATH BUCKMASTER . My husband keeps the Roebuck in Tooley-street—I remember Little and Vallance coming—they had drink—Little paid for it out of a green purse, rather bulky, which he kept in his breast pocket—he changed a sovereign—I did not see him leave. JOSHUA GOLDEN (policrnian, M 87). On 8th Nov., between five and six o'clock, I was on duty in Tooley-street, and saw Vallance part with Little at the corner of Parish-street—Little went into a cheesemonger's shop—John Collins was standing opposite watching him—he saw me watching him, joined another man, and both went into the Anti-Gallican—I spoke to two of my sergeants, and while doing so saw Little leave the shop—I heard of the robbery that evening—on the Friday night Campbell gave me information, and I took John Collins. Cross-examined. Q. In what state was Little?A. He had been drinking but was quite conscious of what he was doing—he walked quite erect—he bought some meat in the shop—the man who Collins joined was Ringrose, who is not in custody—other people were in the street, but I saw no one standing looking but Collins. HENRY HUNT (policeman, M 82). On 12th Nov. I took Daniel Collins, in Tooley-street—I told him it was for being concerned with his brother, who was remanded—he said what his brother had done was nothing to do with him—in going to the station I said, "You have been buying some new clothes"—he said, "What new clothes?—I said, "A jacket and a pair of boots"—he said, "This jacket I have had three months, and can't a fellow afford to buy a pair of boots out of 1l. a week?"—it was not a new jacket, but different to what I had been in the habit of seeing him in—he asked where his brother was—I said I believed he was at Horsemonger-lane—he said, "I have not seen him this fortnight." CATHERINE HOLT . I am the wife of William Holt, who keeps the Colonel Wardell, in Tooley-street. On 8th Nov., about twelve o'clock, as we were clearing the house Conolly came and got change of a sovereign from me—about twenty minutes before that, I found a drunken sailor by my door quite insensible—two constables had him—I took him into my house and gave him such lodgings as I could—it turned out to be Little—a policeman searched him—I saw nothing found but a few papers and a piece of whipcord—he went asleep on the form—he went away in the morning before I was down—he was so drunk I could make nothing of him. JOHN WEBB . I keep a lodging-house in Pump-court, Vine-yard, opposite the Anti-Gallican. On 8th Nov., between ten and eleven o'clock at night, a sailor was brought to my place by John and Daniel Collins—his head was down—I could not see his features—he appeared very drunk, and I refused to take him in—next day I went with Daniel Collins to buy a pair of shoes—he paid 6s. 6d. for them, and bought a jacket for 4s. 6d. John Collins. Q. Did not Campbell help to take the man away?A. Yes, he came with them and went away with them—I said that before the Magistrate. ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL re-examined. I only went outside the door the same as Webb did himself—I was there when the party came in—I live there. MR. METCALFE to JOHN WEBB. Q. Did Campbell live in the house? A. Occasionally—Conolly lodged there—Campbell was away at the Anti-Gallican with them and came back with them. GEORGE WALKER JUDGE (Thames police-inspector). I produce a certificate of Conolly's conviction—I was present at his trial—he is the person mentioned in it—(read—Convicted Nov. 1843, and confined one month). JOHN COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 22. DANIEL COLLINS— GUILTY . Aged 19. CONOLLY— GUILTY . Aged 23. RAGAN— GUILTY . Aged 23. Transported for Ten Years. | RAGAN, John (I1729)
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| 89 | 1930. JAMES BEAR and GEORGE BLERTON were indicted for stealing at St. James, Westminster, 1 snuff-box, value 2l., 1 purse, 9s., 1 sovereign, 1 half-sovereign, 4 half-crowns, 11 shillings, 1 sixpence, and two 5l. Bank-notes; the property of James Harmer Ivatts, their master, in his dwelling house. JAMES HARMER IVATTS. I am a billiard-room keeper at 218, Regent-street. The prisoners lived in my service as errand-boys, and attended to the rooms and to the playing—I had a box in a drawer in the kitchen, containing a small box with the notes and money stated in the indictment—I went out on Sunday, the 25th of July, and left everything safe—I did not leave either of the prisoners on the premises—when I returned I found the kitchen door fastened inside with a chisel—I pushed it open, and found the box on the kitchen table, opened, and everything gone out of it—I went into the area, and found the steps placed against the gate, and the gate open—I called in a policeman, and the prisoners were afterwards taken—Bear said he was induced by Blerton to go down the area with him, and it was him that opened the box with the chisel. Blerton. I did not force the box open, neither did I go down first. Bear. You did; I was going down, and you pushed me down; you went into the kitchen, and forced the box open, and helped me to take the money out. Blerton. It is false. WILLIAM CARROLL. I am servant to Mr. Drummond Woolf, of Half-moon-street, Piccadilly. On Sunday, the 25th of July, I was walking with the prisoners up Regent-street—Bear left me, to go down to see if his master wanted him, and he went down the area—Blerton said, "We will stand here"—we stood on the other side of the railing, a little way off—I thought I heard the door open, and I said to Blerton, "What is that?"—he said, "It is the kitchen door"—presently Bear came, and called, "George"—Blerton went to him on the other side, and I saw him hand him a box—Blerton then got down, and I thought he lifted up a ladder—they then both came out, and ran across the road—I asked what they were running for; if they had been doing anything—they said, No, they were only running out of the way of the carriages—we went down by the corner of Hanover-square—Blerton turned to see if anybody was behind him—I said, "What have you been doing, have you been robbing the house?"—he said, "No," and he was going to punch my head for saying so—we got into Brook-street, and Blerton said, "I am going out of town"—I said, "What a storyteller you are; you said you had but 1s. 6d., and wanted to borrow something of me"—he said, "Yes, but Bear has been down and got some money"—he pulled out a box and gave Bear a sovereign and a half, and some silver—Bear had some silver before that—when we got into Curzon-street, Blerton said to me, "I will give you 30s. if you will change a bank-note for me where you change your master's checks"—I said, no, if it was stolen I should have to abide by the consequences—he said, "If you will, I will give you 30s. each"—I said, no, I would not—we got into some mews in Park-lane, and Blerton offered me a sovereign—I refused it, as I thought it had been stolen—Blerton took out a knife, and said he would stick it into my ribs if I ever said such a thing again—I did not receive the sovereign—I do not think this is the box that was taken—I thought it was a box with the corners rounded off, and larger—it was mounted in gold—I saw Blerton with two bank-notes. Blerton. He did receive the sovereign, Bear gave it to him. Witness. Bear said he did not give it me, but that Blerton did; but I did not receive it. Bear. We saw him at the bottom of Windmill-street; Blerton said we were going to rob our master, and he said he would get ready and come with us; he said he would go to the door and ring the bell, and if anybody answered it he would ask if a Mr. Brown lived there; he came, but nobody was in the house; we went down and opened the area door with a key, and he was to have a sovereign; I can prove that he did have a sovereign, and he took my little brother to the play with it, but he has kept him out of the way for fear he should talk about it. Witness. It is false, my mother went with me to the play. Blerton. There is a here who can prove he had the sovereign, and that he said he would trump up a fine tale about us. Witness. I t is false. JOHN GRAY (police-sergeant C 10.) I took Bear into custody in Great Windmill-street—I was in plain clothes—I told him I was a policeman, and that I took him for breaking into his master's house, and stealing a box containing notes and gold—I asked where the box was—he said it had been left under the pillow at a lodging-house at Wapping, where they slept on the Sunday night—I asked where the notes were changed—he said at Reading, and that there was another boy in it, named Carroll. Bear. He did not take me; I was sitting up stairs, and knew my master was coming; I intended to give myself up; I left Blerton on the Saturday night, and would not go with him any more. Witness. Bear's mother wen to the prosecutor and told him her son had returned from the country, on purpose to have him apprehended—they were away a fortnight—I have not traced the notes—nothing was found on them. ANN WRIGHT. I found this tortoise-shell box in the bed at No. 75, New Gravel-lane, Shadwell, the morning after two young lads had come, and had a lodging there—it was empty—I cannot swear the prisoners were the lads. The prisoners. We are the lads. J. H. IVATTS re-examined. This is my tortoise-shell box, which contained the money—I lost altogether 14l. the purse and the key of a private room were thrown over Waterloo-bridge. Bear. No, over Vauxhall-bridge. Bear's Defence. I lived with my master at first about eight months ago; I then left him and came back; he knew that Blerton was a bad character, but never said anything about it, but put me with him. Blerton's Defence. He did not know that I was a bad character, and if he speaks the truth he can give me a good character; I had lived with him before for a long while; I lived with him this time for about six months; we had 5s. a week, and had to work from nine in the morning till one, and one week I was up four whole nights attending to the billiard-table while my master was playing, and I had to put the score on for him to cheat a gentleman; he won about 40l. J. H. IVATTS re-examined. I deny the story—I do not play once in a month—I never won 40l. or 40s. at a time in my life, and as to the scoring, I have given them both cautions against that sort of thing. Blerton. Yes, in the presence of gentleman, but not by ourselves; you won 14l. one night of a gentleman, and there were two or three others that you allowed to do the same thing, up in the top room, and in the middle room; Mr. Wigan and Mr. Thompson, don't you recollect? Witness. No, I do not; if I let a private room I do not know who is in it. Blerton. None know less than those that won't know. Witness. I know that he ran away from his ship and stole 25l., and I do not believe that Bear would have committed himself in this way without he had been induced by Blerton—my place is not a gambling-house, but a licensed place for the amusement of gentlemen—they very seldom play for money—these boys were to a certain extent acting as markers—they looked after the rooms and attended to the gentlemen when the bell rang—I am the owner of the house, and live in it, but I let the lower part—it is in the parish of St. James, Westminster. WILLIAM CARROLL re-examined. I went with the prisoners because they asked me to take a walk with them—I never received the sovereign—I gave information to the police next day. Blerton. He did receive it; two boys in Angel-court could prove it, and you told them you knew it was stolen. Witness. It is no such thing. JOHN GRAY re-examined. I heard nothing from Carroll until I went to his master's house on the Monday, as Bear was apprehended on the Sunday—it was in consequence of Bear's stating that Carroll was concerned in it that I went there—he denied positively having received a sovereign, and I took him to the Mansion-house. BEAR— GUILTY. Aged 15.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor — Confined Six Months BLERTON— GUILTY. Aged 16.— Transported for Seven Years | BEAR, James (I1706)
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| 90 | 1930. JAMES BEAR and GEORGE BLERTON were indicted for stealing at St. James, Westminster, 1 snuff-box, value 2l., 1 purse, 9s., 1 sovereign, 1 half-sovereign, 4 half-crowns, 11 shillings, 1 sixpence, and two 5l. Bank-notes; the property of James Harmer Ivatts, their master, in his dwelling house. JAMES HARMER IVATTS. I am a billiard-room keeper at 218, Regent-street. The prisoners lived in my service as errand-boys, and attended to the rooms and to the playing—I had a box in a drawer in the kitchen, containing a small box with the notes and money stated in the indictment—I went out on Sunday, the 25th of July, and left everything safe—I did not leave either of the prisoners on the premises—when I returned I found the kitchen door fastened inside with a chisel—I pushed it open, and found the box on the kitchen table, opened, and everything gone out of it—I went into the area, and found the steps placed against the gate, and the gate open—I called in a policeman, and the prisoners were afterwards taken—Bear said he was induced by Blerton to go down the area with him, and it was him that opened the box with the chisel. Blerton. I did not force the box open, neither did I go down first. Bear. You did; I was going down, and you pushed me down; you went into the kitchen, and forced the box open, and helped me to take the money out. Blerton. It is false. WILLIAM CARROLL. I am servant to Mr. Drummond Woolf, of Half-moon-street, Piccadilly. On Sunday, the 25th of July, I was walking with the prisoners up Regent-street—Bear left me, to go down to see if his master wanted him, and he went down the area—Blerton said, "We will stand here"—we stood on the other side of the railing, a little way off—I thought I heard the door open, and I said to Blerton, "What is that?"—he said, "It is the kitchen door"—presently Bear came, and called, "George"—Blerton went to him on the other side, and I saw him hand him a box—Blerton then got down, and I thought he lifted up a ladder—they then both came out, and ran across the road—I asked what they were running for; if they had been doing anything—they said, No, they were only running out of the way of the carriages—we went down by the corner of Hanover-square—Blerton turned to see if anybody was behind him—I said, "What have you been doing, have you been robbing the house?"—he said, "No," and he was going to punch my head for saying so—we got into Brook-street, and Blerton said, "I am going out of town"—I said, "What a storyteller you are; you said you had but 1s. 6d., and wanted to borrow something of me"—he said, "Yes, but Bear has been down and got some money"—he pulled out a box and gave Bear a sovereign and a half, and some silver—Bear had some silver before that—when we got into Curzon-street, Blerton said to me, "I will give you 30s. if you will change a bank-note for me where you change your master's checks"—I said, no, if it was stolen I should have to abide by the consequences—he said, "If you will, I will give you 30s. each"—I said, no, I would not—we got into some mews in Park-lane, and Blerton offered me a sovereign—I refused it, as I thought it had been stolen—Blerton took out a knife, and said he would stick it into my ribs if I ever said such a thing again—I did not receive the sovereign—I do not think this is the box that was taken—I thought it was a box with the corners rounded off, and larger—it was mounted in gold—I saw Blerton with two bank-notes. Blerton. He did receive the sovereign, Bear gave it to him. Witness. Bear said he did not give it me, but that Blerton did; but I did not receive it. Bear. We saw him at the bottom of Windmill-street; Blerton said we were going to rob our master, and he said he would get ready and come with us; he said he would go to the door and ring the bell, and if anybody answered it he would ask if a Mr. Brown lived there; he came, but nobody was in the house; we went down and opened the area door with a key, and he was to have a sovereign; I can prove that he did have a sovereign, and he took my little brother to the play with it, but he has kept him out of the way for fear he should talk about it. Witness. It is false, my mother went with me to the play. Blerton. There is a here who can prove he had the sovereign, and that he said he would trump up a fine tale about us. Witness. I t is false. JOHN GRAY (police-sergeant C 10.) I took Bear into custody in Great Windmill-street—I was in plain clothes—I told him I was a policeman, and that I took him for breaking into his master's house, and stealing a box containing notes and gold—I asked where the box was—he said it had been left under the pillow at a lodging-house at Wapping, where they slept on the Sunday night—I asked where the notes were changed—he said at Reading, and that there was another boy in it, named Carroll. Bear. He did not take me; I was sitting up stairs, and knew my master was coming; I intended to give myself up; I left Blerton on the Saturday night, and would not go with him any more. Witness. Bear's mother wen to the prosecutor and told him her son had returned from the country, on purpose to have him apprehended—they were away a fortnight—I have not traced the notes—nothing was found on them. ANN WRIGHT. I found this tortoise-shell box in the bed at No. 75, New Gravel-lane, Shadwell, the morning after two young lads had come, and had a lodging there—it was empty—I cannot swear the prisoners were the lads. The prisoners. We are the lads. J. H. IVATTS re-examined. This is my tortoise-shell box, which contained the money—I lost altogether 14l. the purse and the key of a private room were thrown over Waterloo-bridge. Bear. No, over Vauxhall-bridge. Bear's Defence. I lived with my master at first about eight months ago; I then left him and came back; he knew that Blerton was a bad character, but never said anything about it, but put me with him. Blerton's Defence. He did not know that I was a bad character, and if he speaks the truth he can give me a good character; I had lived with him before for a long while; I lived with him this time for about six months; we had 5s. a week, and had to work from nine in the morning till one, and one week I was up four whole nights attending to the billiard-table while my master was playing, and I had to put the score on for him to cheat a gentleman; he won about 40l. J. H. IVATTS re-examined. I deny the story—I do not play once in a month—I never won 40l. or 40s. at a time in my life, and as to the scoring, I have given them both cautions against that sort of thing. Blerton. Yes, in the presence of gentleman, but not by ourselves; you won 14l. one night of a gentleman, and there were two or three others that you allowed to do the same thing, up in the top room, and in the middle room; Mr. Wigan and Mr. Thompson, don't you recollect? Witness. No, I do not; if I let a private room I do not know who is in it. Blerton. None know less than those that won't know. Witness. I know that he ran away from his ship and stole 25l., and I do not believe that Bear would have committed himself in this way without he had been induced by Blerton—my place is not a gambling-house, but a licensed place for the amusement of gentlemen—they very seldom play for money—these boys were to a certain extent acting as markers—they looked after the rooms and attended to the gentlemen when the bell rang—I am the owner of the house, and live in it, but I let the lower part—it is in the parish of St. James, Westminster. WILLIAM CARROLL re-examined. I went with the prisoners because they asked me to take a walk with them—I never received the sovereign—I gave information to the police next day. Blerton. He did receive it; two boys in Angel-court could prove it, and you told them you knew it was stolen. Witness. It is no such thing. JOHN GRAY re-examined. I heard nothing from Carroll until I went to his master's house on the Monday, as Bear was apprehended on the Sunday—it was in consequence of Bear's stating that Carroll was concerned in it that I went there—he denied positively having received a sovereign, and I took him to the Mansion-house. BEAR— GUILTY. Aged 15.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor — Confined Six Months BLERTON— GUILTY. Aged 16.— Transported for Seven Years | BLURTON, George (I1705)
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| 91 | 1930. JAMES BEAR and GEORGE BLERTON were indicted for stealing at St. James, Westminster, 1 snuff-box, value 2l., 1 purse, 9s., 1 sovereign, 1 half-sovereign, 4 half-crowns, 11 shillings, 1 sixpence, and two 5l. Bank-notes; the property of James Harmer Ivatts, their master, in his dwelling house. JAMES HARMER IVATTS. I am a billiard-room keeper at 218, Regent-street. The prisoners lived in my service as errand-boys, and attended to the rooms and to the playing—I had a box in a drawer in the kitchen, containing a small box with the notes and money stated in the indictment—I went out on Sunday, the 25th of July, and left everything safe—I did not leave either of the prisoners on the premises—when I returned I found the kitchen door fastened inside with a chisel—I pushed it open, and found the box on the kitchen table, opened, and everything gone out of it—I went into the area, and found the steps placed against the gate, and the gate open—I called in a policeman, and the prisoners were afterwards taken—Bear said he was induced by Blerton to go down the area with him, and it was him that opened the box with the chisel. Blerton. I did not force the box open, neither did I go down first. Bear. You did; I was going down, and you pushed me down; you went into the kitchen, and forced the box open, and helped me to take the money out. Blerton. It is false. WILLIAM CARROLL. I am servant to Mr. Drummond Woolf, of Half-moon-street, Piccadilly. On Sunday, the 25th of July, I was walking with the prisoners up Regent-street—Bear left me, to go down to see if his master wanted him, and he went down the area—Blerton said, "We will stand here"—we stood on the other side of the railing, a little way off—I thought I heard the door open, and I said to Blerton, "What is that?"—he said, "It is the kitchen door"—presently Bear came, and called, "George"—Blerton went to him on the other side, and I saw him hand him a box—Blerton then got down, and I thought he lifted up a ladder—they then both came out, and ran across the road—I asked what they were running for; if they had been doing anything—they said, No, they were only running out of the way of the carriages—we went down by the corner of Hanover-square—Blerton turned to see if anybody was behind him—I said, "What have you been doing, have you been robbing the house?"—he said, "No," and he was going to punch my head for saying so—we got into Brook-street, and Blerton said, "I am going out of town"—I said, "What a storyteller you are; you said you had but 1s. 6d., and wanted to borrow something of me"—he said, "Yes, but Bear has been down and got some money"—he pulled out a box and gave Bear a sovereign and a half, and some silver—Bear had some silver before that—when we got into Curzon-street, Blerton said to me, "I will give you 30s. if you will change a bank-note for me where you change your master's checks"—I said, no, if it was stolen I should have to abide by the consequences—he said, "If you will, I will give you 30s. each"—I said, no, I would not—we got into some mews in Park-lane, and Blerton offered me a sovereign—I refused it, as I thought it had been stolen—Blerton took out a knife, and said he would stick it into my ribs if I ever said such a thing again—I did not receive the sovereign—I do not think this is the box that was taken—I thought it was a box with the corners rounded off, and larger—it was mounted in gold—I saw Blerton with two bank-notes. Blerton. He did receive the sovereign, Bear gave it to him. Witness. Bear said he did not give it me, but that Blerton did; but I did not receive it. Bear. We saw him at the bottom of Windmill-street; Blerton said we were going to rob our master, and he said he would get ready and come with us; he said he would go to the door and ring the bell, and if anybody answered it he would ask if a Mr. Brown lived there; he came, but nobody was in the house; we went down and opened the area door with a key, and he was to have a sovereign; I can prove that he did have a sovereign, and he took my little brother to the play with it, but he has kept him out of the way for fear he should talk about it. Witness. It is false, my mother went with me to the play. Blerton. There is a here who can prove he had the sovereign, and that he said he would trump up a fine tale about us. Witness. I t is false. JOHN GRAY (police-sergeant C 10.) I took Bear into custody in Great Windmill-street—I was in plain clothes—I told him I was a policeman, and that I took him for breaking into his master's house, and stealing a box containing notes and gold—I asked where the box was—he said it had been left under the pillow at a lodging-house at Wapping, where they slept on the Sunday night—I asked where the notes were changed—he said at Reading, and that there was another boy in it, named Carroll. Bear. He did not take me; I was sitting up stairs, and knew my master was coming; I intended to give myself up; I left Blerton on the Saturday night, and would not go with him any more. Witness. Bear's mother wen to the prosecutor and told him her son had returned from the country, on purpose to have him apprehended—they were away a fortnight—I have not traced the notes—nothing was found on them. ANN WRIGHT. I found this tortoise-shell box in the bed at No. 75, New Gravel-lane, Shadwell, the morning after two young lads had come, and had a lodging there—it was empty—I cannot swear the prisoners were the lads. The prisoners. We are the lads. J. H. IVATTS re-examined. This is my tortoise-shell box, which contained the money—I lost altogether 14l. the purse and the key of a private room were thrown over Waterloo-bridge. Bear. No, over Vauxhall-bridge. Bear's Defence. I lived with my master at first about eight months ago; I then left him and came back; he knew that Blerton was a bad character, but never said anything about it, but put me with him. Blerton's Defence. He did not know that I was a bad character, and if he speaks the truth he can give me a good character; I had lived with him before for a long while; I lived with him this time for about six months; we had 5s. a week, and had to work from nine in the morning till one, and one week I was up four whole nights attending to the billiard-table while my master was playing, and I had to put the score on for him to cheat a gentleman; he won about 40l. J. H. IVATTS re-examined. I deny the story—I do not play once in a month—I never won 40l. or 40s. at a time in my life, and as to the scoring, I have given them both cautions against that sort of thing. Blerton. Yes, in the presence of gentleman, but not by ourselves; you won 14l. one night of a gentleman, and there were two or three others that you allowed to do the same thing, up in the top room, and in the middle room; Mr. Wigan and Mr. Thompson, don't you recollect? Witness. No, I do not; if I let a private room I do not know who is in it. Blerton. None know less than those that won't know. Witness. I know that he ran away from his ship and stole 25l., and I do not believe that Bear would have committed himself in this way without he had been induced by Blerton—my place is not a gambling-house, but a licensed place for the amusement of gentlemen—they very seldom play for money—these boys were to a certain extent acting as markers—they looked after the rooms and attended to the gentlemen when the bell rang—I am the owner of the house, and live in it, but I let the lower part—it is in the parish of St. James, Westminster. WILLIAM CARROLL re-examined. I went with the prisoners because they asked me to take a walk with them—I never received the sovereign—I gave information to the police next day. Blerton. He did receive it; two boys in Angel-court could prove it, and you told them you knew it was stolen. Witness. It is no such thing. JOHN GRAY re-examined. I heard nothing from Carroll until I went to his master's house on the Monday, as Bear was apprehended on the Sunday—it was in consequence of Bear's stating that Carroll was concerned in it that I went there—he denied positively having received a sovereign, and I took him to the Mansion-house. BEAR— GUILTY. Aged 15.—Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor — Confined Six Months BLERTON— GUILTY. Aged 16.— Transported for Seven Years | BEAR, James (I1706)
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| 93 | 2270. WILLIAM MILTON PUGSLEY , stealing, whilst employed under the Post-Office, a post-letter, containing 1s.; the money of Her Majesty's post-master General. MESSRS. CLARKSON and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution. THOMAS GAPES . I am inspector of letter-carriers at the Charing cross Branch-office—the prisoner has been a letter-carrier at that office for three or four years in the Pimlico district—a letter addressed to Emanuel Hospital Schools would be in his delivery—a letter posted at Beverley, in Yorkshire, on 3rd Aug., would be delivered in town on the morning of the 4th, about nine, or from nine to ten—after his delivery, he came to the office about twenty minutes past twelve—he was then taken into custody upon a process of the County Court—the officers were waiting at the office for his return—they brought him to me, and asked if I would see that all his letters were taken from him before he was taken, as they could not take him while he had any letters in his possession—I desired the prisoner to give up all his letters to his partner, George Feltham—he said he had done so—he was then taken by the officers—this letter (produced) bears the Beverley post-mark of 3rd Aug., and the London post-mark of 4th—it is open—it has been wafered—I know the prisoner's handwriting—I believe this other letter to be his—(produced.) Cross-examined by MR. BALLAXTINE. Q. Do you know about the number of letters he would have to deliver of a morning. A. I cannot say—I have known instances of money escaping from letters—if such a thing happened while the postman was going his rounds, it would be his duty to explain that to the party to whom he delivered the letter, if he knew the letter out of which it came—if he could not tell, it would be his duty to inform some person in authority, and to receive directions as to what to do—he would not be justified in delivering money to a party with a letter, unless he was quite ascertain that it belonged to that letter—he would not have any opportunity of seeing any of the superiors of the establishment until he was taken into custody—he did not appear to be much excited and agitated—the officers were not in the office—I told him that two persons were waiting for him, and desired him to go out to them—he brought in his collection of letters with him—I have no idea how many there were—he brought them in in a bag—they were letters that he had collected from the different district offices. JOSEPH KING . I am a warden in the Westminster House of Correction—the prisoner was brought there on the 4th Aug. under a process of the County Court—I was asked by another officer to come and search him, and I did so—the first thing I searched was his hat—I turned up the leather lining and found a piece of newspaper put in, as if the hat was too large for him—I said, "Have you anything else in the hat?" He said, "No." I then tanned down the lining, and there found the letter produced, broken open—I said, "Halloo! here is a letter!" He said, "Oh yes, it is quite right; I have deliverd the letter, and am further going to deliver it to a Mrs. Somebody, " mentioning some name which I forget, in Chapel-street; it was no such name as is on this letter—I turned the letter round, and said, "It is directed to Master Geo. Eastwood, Emanuel Hospital School, James-street, Westminster, London." He said, "Yes; if I can see the next postman that comes to the prison gate, I will explain the whole particulars to him, and give it to him to take it to where I was to take it to." I was about to take it out of the envelope, when he very quietly took it from my hand, and said, "It is quite right"—I had not read the contents of it—I said, "I don't think you will be allowed to see the next postman; if you will tell me the particulars about it, I will give it to the postman?"—He said, "I think you will not understand it." I said, "Why; is it not written in English?"—he said, "Yes; but you won't understand it." I continued to search him, and the only money I found on him was a penny, and he acknowledged that to be all he had; but he wanted to send for some money—that was while I was searching him—I searched every pocket except his fob, and I told him to turn that out—he said, "he had nothing in it"—he bad given the letter back to me, and I gave it to Maries, who was also present during the search—I handed it to Marles with the other papers—he reported the case to the Governor, and the Governor allowed the prisoner to see the next postman—I was not present—I did not read the letter and envelope at the time I was with the prisoner—it was about five minutes to two when I searched him, and it was about half-past four the same afternoon that I saw it again—Marles was not present when I looked at it—the prisoner did not ask me for pen and ink to write a letter, nor did I see him write a letter—next day I went to the General Post-office, and accompanied Peak back to the prison—I was present when Peak saw the prisoner—Peak said to him, "You are charged with stealing a money-letter containing one shilling, directed to Master Geo. Eastwood, Emanuel Hospital Schools, James-street, Westminster, London." He said, "I did not steal it, I found the shilling in my pocket and meant to have returned it to the inspector on duty."—I said, "How could you do that, when you had only one penny in your pocket?"—he said, he had made use of the money previous to coming in, and he meant to have returned it. Cross-examined. Q. You have told us two very long conversations; am I to understand that you pledge yourself to the accuracy of them. A. Yes; I have not the least doubt about them—I am sure he said he found the shilling in his pocket—that was said in Peak's presence—I did not hear him say he found the shilling in his bundle of letters—he said he collected his letters at Elliott's; but I did not hear him say anything about finding the shilling in the bundle—it was my duty to search him accurately—this was the only letter I foand in his hat, I swear that—I found another letter in his side coat-pocket, which I gave up to the Post-office authorities—I think I gave it to Marles; it was directed to a Miss Adams, Montagu-place—it was sealed—I have not seen it since—the word "Paid" was put in the corner, but there was was no post mark on it—there was one letter directed to himself—that was found in his breast-pocket; be pulled out three or four memorandums or papers—the letter directed to himself, was with one directed to Miss Adams—it was among the letters he pulled out—I took it out of his breast-pocket with the papers he had—he was very reluctant to take them out—I took part out, and he took part out—he took out the letter directed to himself, and gave it to me; I gave it to Maries—I am quite sure that that letter was not found in his hat, because I read the direction myself—I found the letter in his hat before I found the other papers—I searched the hat the first thing—I put that letter and the other papers all together, and delivered them up to Maries—I did not find every thins that the prisoner had about him—he acknowledged that he had given up everything—I have been reprimanded for the manner in which I conducted this search—I now know that some other things were found on him—the person is not here that found them—when I found the letter, he said, it was all right; he had delivered it, and was going to further deliver it—that was the letter I found in his hat—he did not say he had to deliver it—I said at Bow-street that he said he had delivered it. THOMAS MARLES . I was present at the Westminster gaol, when the prisoner was searched. I told him to give up all his property—he was asked whether he had given up everything that he had—he said yes he had done—he had given up a newspaper, and two or three letters, which he took, I believe, from his breast coatpocket—King was present when he produced them—he had his hat on—I saw King take it off and search it, and find a letter in it—that was after the other papers were found—I am quite sure of that—this is the envelope of the letter that was taken from his hat—I read the address—I took the letters and papers and wrapped them up in a parcel—kept them for about half an hour, and then delivered the letter again to the prisoner—he said he wished to see the next postman that came, in order that he might give the letter up to him—a postman came soon after wards, and I was present when the prisoner saw him—the prisoner requested the postman to go to some place and obtain some money for him, and to come again at at half-past five o'clock—I do not remember the place he mentioned—the post-man said, "Very well," and the prisoner was about to come away, and I said, "I thought you had a letter to give him? you have not given him the letter"—I had given him back the letter before that—the prisoner said, "Yes, I have a letter," put his hand into his side pocket, and pulled it out, and asked the postman if he knew a somebody; I believe it was Mrs. Williams, but I am not certain, in Little Chapel-street—the postman said no, he did not know the house—the prisoner said, "No, I have forgotten the number, and if you will return at half-past five I will write out an explanation for yon"—the postman said, "If you have a letter I had better deliver that; no doubt I shall rind it out"—he said, "No, if you call at half-past five and bring me some money, I will write out the whole of the explanation for you"—he showed the postman a letter—the postman took it, and returned it to him again directly, and he kept it for a short time after the postman left, and then applied to me for paper to write out the explanation—I supplied him—he wrote more than one—he gave me one addressed to a person in Regent-street; I gave it to the Governor—I saw no more of him—at the same time he gave me this letter, addressed to the Inspector, Charing-cross post-office—it is not one of the sheets of paper I supplied to him, but I know he wrote it—it was wafered when he gave it me—the wafer was wet—it was open when I had it half an hour before—the Governor opened it, and King was sent to Emanuel Hospital with it. Cross-examined. Q. Was not the other letter to Mr. Pridley, Palace-street, Pimlico? A. No; I heard everything that was said during the search—I cannot swear he had not taken his hat off when the letters were being delivered up—King took it off afterwards—the letter taken out of it was placed on the top of the others, tied up in a parcel, and delivered by King to me—when it was found. King said, "Here is a letter; it is broken open"—the prisoner said, "Oh yes, it is all right, I have delivered the letter, but have been requested as a favour to deliver it to somebody else"—he did not mention the name, but said, "to some one in Chapel-street"—a bit of 3 paper was also found in his hat—1d. was found—he was asked if he had anything more—he said "No," that was all he had—King did not say anything about a shilling that day—I was not present when he was searched the second time. MR. BODKIN. Q. When you left the room, had you any notion that that letter was supposed to contain money? A. No, not till the Governor broke it open—it was open when it was found—I never read it—I am not aware that any one did, till the Governor did—I have no recollection of money being mentioned during the whole time I and King were together. MATTHEW PEAK . On 5th Aug. I received a warrant to apprehend the prisoner, and went to the House of Detention, and informed him I took him for stealing a letter adressed "Master George Eastwood, Emanuel Hospital, Westminster," containing 1s., which ought to have been delivered the day before—I asked him if he had anything to say to it—he said, "No"—I said, "Am I to take that as an answer?"—he stopped a minute, and said, "I found the shilling among the letters, and intended to take it back to the Inspector when I went back"—that he found Master George Eastwood's letter open, and he was going to ask the Inspector if he was to deliver the letter with or without the shilling—King said, "How could you do that when you only had a penny on you?"—he said, "No, I made away with that, and all I had, before I came here." Cross-examined. Q. This was at Tothill-fields prison? A. Yes—he did not say he found the shilling in his pocket; but among the bundle of letters. GEORGE EASTWOOD . I am the father of George Eastwood, who was at the hospital, and live at Ramsburton, Yorkshire. On 3rd Aug. I wrote this letter, and put it in this envelope—it was directed by a friend of mine to my son—this is his writing—I wrote another letter to Mary Elizabeth Waters, the schoolmistress at Emanuel—I wafered both letters about twelve o'clock, and gave them to Stevenson, the post-carrier, who goes between Ramsburton and Beverley—they were quite secure—I know no one living in Little Chapel-street, London. GEORGE EASTWOOD, JUS . I was at Emanuel Hospital School. On 8th Aug. I went home for the holidays—I received no note from my father about a week before, and no shilling—I know no one in Little Chapel-street, London. Cross-examined. Q. Is the hospital at the end of Little Chapel-street? A. Yes. JULIA SEYMOUR . I was at Emanuel Hospital-school. I recollect the letters coming on 4th Aug.—they are put into a box—I saw the prisoner, who is postman, that morning, about eleven o'clock, put three letters into the box—I bad heard the postman's bell ring before that—I took out the three letters, and gave two to Mrs. Waters, and one to the boy Thompson—this letter, addressed Master George Eastwood, was not there. SAMUEL MILDER . I am a letter-carrier at the Charing-cross Post-office. On 4th Aug., between two and three o'clock, I had occasion to go to the westminstor House of Correction, and in consequence of information from the Porter, I went into the place, and remained till the prisoner was brought—he put a letter in my hand—after I had read the address, he took it back—he said he had a re-direction for it to go to Little Chapel-street—he could not think of the name or number, but said he would endeavour to do so—he asked me to bring him some pens and writing-paper out of his drawer, and to know what time I could take his money and his wages—the warder gave me the key of his drawer to get the pape'rs, and I then left the prison—I saw him again next day—he said he was so confused the day before at being brought there, that ho could not tell rightly about the letter; but that when he was in Elliott's brew house, on untying his letters, there was 1s., fell out, and he found a letter with the seal broken that he thought it had come out of, and he intended to keep it to send to the Inspector at Charing-cross for his opinion. Cross-examined. Q. Have you had money tumble out of your letters in the course of your delivery? A. No; it never happened to me—once in the course of my sorting in the office, a sixpence fell out of a letter by accident, and it was given to the Inspector, who was present at the time—I have gone the same beat as the prisoner—I have not known him to put letters aside in his hat—I have put letters into my hat on a wet day, when I could not get at my pocket. MR. CLARKSON. Q. Have you ever put them in the lining of your half? A. No; if money dropped from a letter in my possession, I should think is my duty immediately to communicate it to the officer on duty. GEORGE FELTHAM . I was the prisoner's partner in the delivery of the district of Pimlico. On the 4th Aug., the day he was taken, he did not hand me any letters. (The letter being read, mentioned the fact of 1s.being enclosed in it.) The letter written by the prisoner was as follows:—"To the Inspector, Charing-cross.—This morning I found with my letters 1s., and meant to have star: you the letter I supposed it came out of, as the seal was broken or imperfect, I gave it to one of our men to deliver, and the shilling was enclosed to you. The letter was addressed—'Emanuel Hospital, Westminster.'" (The prisoner here produced his hat, and King pointed out where he found the letter.) GUILTY. Aged 35.—Recommended to mercy. — Transported for Seven Years. Before Mr. Justice Maule. | PUGSLEY, William Milton (I1403)
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| 94 | 2271. JOSIAH KINGSBURY , stealing whilst employed in the Post-office, a post-letter containing money, the property of the Postmaster-General; to which he pleaded GUILTY . Aged 26.— Transported for Seven Years. (John Bowrer, printer, Bagnigge-wells-road, and Henry Allen, of Great Wild-street, carman, gave the prisoner a good character.) | KINGSBURY, Josiah (I1351)
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| 95 | 2340. HENRY DOBSON , stealing 2 brooches, 2 rings, 2 shirts, and; other articles, value 7l. 11s.; the goods of Henry John Clifford, in his dwelling-house. HENRY JOHN CLIFFORD . I keep the Crown, Stanhope-street, Clare-market, in the parish of St. Clement Danes—it is my dwelling-house—the prisoner occasionally lodged there—he had his victuals there—on Wednesday night, 20th Sept., about twelve o'clock my wife told me something—I went to my bed-room, and missed a box of jewellery from a drawer, also two waistcoats, six silk handkerchiefs, two shirts, and an apron; worth 7l.—these produced are a portion of them—the prisoner was there that day and evening—the prisoner slept there that night—I missed some of them before bedtime—these rings are mine. MARY GARRETT . I was in Mr. Clifford's service. I saw the prisoner is the bagatelle-room on the first-floor—I went to my master's room on the next floor, and heard a scuffling noise in one of the bed-rooms—I was in the dark—I got a light, and saw a man's foot under the bed in the spare room—I called out but got no answer—I went down to the bagatelle-room—the prisoner was not there—he was there five minutes before—I called a Mr. smith, we went up, but saw no one—there are two doors to the ioom, one was us-locked, and the other locked inside; the person under the bed could unlock it, and go down another flight of stairs which communicated with the aters—I went down again, and saw the prisoner in the bagatelle-room—I asked if he had been up stairs—he said, "No"—I saw something in his bosom, and asked what it was—he said his flannel shirt stuck out—I said it did not look like a flannel shirt; then he said it was a piece of white cambric to make him a handkerchief—I asked to see it—he said I should not. GEORGE SMITH . I am in the service of Henry Ashman, a pawnbroker, of Long Acre. I produce a waistcoat and two rings, pledged on 20th. Sept. by a female in the name of Dobson, and a waistcoat by a male—these are the tickets I gave. WILLIAM SAW . I was in the service of Mr. Priest, a pawnbroker. I produce a silk handkerchief, pawned on the 21st of Sept. in the name of Johnson, I believe by the prisoner—this is the ticket I gave. WILLIAM WEST (police-sergeant, F). On 21st Sept I took the prisoner, and said he must consider himself in my custody, on suspicion of a robbery—he said he was innocent, and should not go—I took him—he tried to escape—part of his coat-tail came off in my band, and in the pocket I found these three tickets relating to this property. SOPHIA NEALE . The prisoner gave me these two rings, and asked me to pawn one for 3s.—I did so. GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Seven Years . | DOBSON, Henry (I1257)
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| 96 | 2464. EDWIN GATEHOUSE and WILLIAM DOWLEY , unlawfully meeting together for the purpose of committing buggery. DOWLEY— GUILTY . Aged 28.— Confined One Year . GATEHOUSE— GUILTY . Aged 30. | DOWLEY, William (I1793)
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| 97 | 2467. DAVID PRICE and WALTER JAMES SUNTER , for a robbery on William Nunn, putting him in fear, and stealing from his person 1 watch, value 3l., and 1 chain, value 1s., his goods. MR. THOMPSON conducted the Prosecution. WILLIAM NUNN . On Sunday night, 22nd Oct., I was in Tower-street, Westminster-road—Price came up to me and said, "How are you?"—I said, "Very well, how are you?"—he said, "Who would have thought of seeing you here"—I said, "I don't know that any one did"—he said, "Thomas, you certainly know me"—I said, "No; nor you don't know me; nor I don't want to have anything to say to you"—he directly put his hand to my pocket—I put my hand to my trowsers pocket, and five or six came round me, and one of them snatched my watch from my pocket—I heard the guard snap from my neck—when I came to myself a little from the struggle, Sunter had got hold of my stock, and shoved me backwards against the rail, and Price was standing by the side of him. Cross-examined by MR. SLEIGH. Q. What time was this? A. Half-past eleven at night—I am not married—I had not been talking to any one before this occurrence took place—I was walking by myself to the best of my knowledge—I had not been in company with some women just previously—I swear I was not outside a public-house speaking to some women—I never saw either of the prisoners before that night—there might be a good many men in the street—there were five or six round me—I will not swear there were not a dozen round me—it was not very dark, nor yet light—I had had part of a pot of beer in the Oxford Arms, in the same road in which I was robbed—I did not go into more than one public-house—I cannot tell what time I went into the public-house—I was not there above twenty minutes. COURT. Q. Were you sober? A. Yes; I am able to swear that these are the men that robbed and assaulted me—it was not a quarter of a minute after my watch was taken that the prisoners were taken by Mr. Watts. HENRY HOLLYMAN . On that night I was in Tower-street, Westminster-road about a quarter past twelve o'clock—I was about three yards on this side of the Oxford Anns—I heard a female call out, "Thomas!"—I turned and it was to Sunter she said, "Tom, mind the hole"—I saw Price speak to the prosecutor—he said, "Tom, how are you?"—he said, "I know nothing of you"—I turned down a street, and heard a scuffle—I came back and saw Sunter had got the prosecutor up against the fence, and a man and woman ran by me—Mr. Watts took Sunter, and he said he knew nothing about it. Price. When I put my hand to the prosecutor's pocket, why did he not give me in charge? WILLIAM NUNN re-examined. Because I was so confounded—I had not two girls under my arm—I had no girls that night. HENRY HOLLYMAN re-examined. When I saw the prosecutor in the first instance he had one woman leaning on his arm. JOEL WATTS . I live in Battersea-fields. On Sunday week I was returning home with my nephew, William Nunn, and a man and a woman—I was twenty yards a head of them—I heard my nephew call out for assistance—I went back and saw the two prisoners had hold of him—I collared them both and held them till a policeman came—I gave them in charge. Prices Defence. I am innocent; this gentleman said, "Have you seen any one come this way?" I said, "No;" I came across the road; I was just going home; I saw the prosecutor come out with two females; I went and had half a quartern of gin and was going home; I was standing at the corner half a minute and heard a row; I ran down the street and saw the prosecutor bustling about; I made answer to him, "What is the matter, Thomas?" he said, "What is that to you? I will give you in charge"—I said, "It is time enough when I have done anything." (Henry Crook, a builder;——Parson, a smith and engineer; and Walter Hirris, a bookbinder, gave Sunter a good character). PRICE— GUILTY . SUNTER— GUILTY . Transported for Seven Years. | PRICE, David (I1451)
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| 98 | 2467. DAVID PRICE and WALTER JAMES SUNTER , for a robbery on William Nunn, putting him in fear, and stealing from his person 1 watch, value 3l., and 1 chain, value 1s., his goods. MR. THOMPSON conducted the Prosecution. WILLIAM NUNN . On Sunday night, 22nd Oct., I was in Tower-street, Westminster-road—Price came up to me and said, "How are you?"—I said, "Very well, how are you?"—he said, "Who would have thought of seeing you here"—I said, "I don't know that any one did"—he said, "Thomas, you certainly know me"—I said, "No; nor you don't know me; nor I don't want to have anything to say to you"—he directly put his hand to my pocket—I put my hand to my trowsers pocket, and five or six came round me, and one of them snatched my watch from my pocket—I heard the guard snap from my neck—when I came to myself a little from the struggle, Sunter had got hold of my stock, and shoved me backwards against the rail, and Price was standing by the side of him. Cross-examined by MR. SLEIGH. Q. What time was this? A. Half-past eleven at night—I am not married—I had not been talking to any one before this occurrence took place—I was walking by myself to the best of my knowledge—I had not been in company with some women just previously—I swear I was not outside a public-house speaking to some women—I never saw either of the prisoners before that night—there might be a good many men in the street—there were five or six round me—I will not swear there were not a dozen round me—it was not very dark, nor yet light—I had had part of a pot of beer in the Oxford Arms, in the same road in which I was robbed—I did not go into more than one public-house—I cannot tell what time I went into the public-house—I was not there above twenty minutes. COURT. Q. Were you sober? A. Yes; I am able to swear that these are the men that robbed and assaulted me—it was not a quarter of a minute after my watch was taken that the prisoners were taken by Mr. Watts. HENRY HOLLYMAN . On that night I was in Tower-street, Westminster-road about a quarter past twelve o'clock—I was about three yards on this side of the Oxford Anns—I heard a female call out, "Thomas!"—I turned and it was to Sunter she said, "Tom, mind the hole"—I saw Price speak to the prosecutor—he said, "Tom, how are you?"—he said, "I know nothing of you"—I turned down a street, and heard a scuffle—I came back and saw Sunter had got the prosecutor up against the fence, and a man and woman ran by me—Mr. Watts took Sunter, and he said he knew nothing about it. Price. When I put my hand to the prosecutor's pocket, why did he not give me in charge? WILLIAM NUNN re-examined. Because I was so confounded—I had not two girls under my arm—I had no girls that night. HENRY HOLLYMAN re-examined. When I saw the prosecutor in the first instance he had one woman leaning on his arm. JOEL WATTS . I live in Battersea-fields. On Sunday week I was returning home with my nephew, William Nunn, and a man and a woman—I was twenty yards a head of them—I heard my nephew call out for assistance—I went back and saw the two prisoners had hold of him—I collared them both and held them till a policeman came—I gave them in charge. Prices Defence. I am innocent; this gentleman said, "Have you seen any one come this way?" I said, "No;" I came across the road; I was just going home; I saw the prosecutor come out with two females; I went and had half a quartern of gin and was going home; I was standing at the corner half a minute and heard a row; I ran down the street and saw the prosecutor bustling about; I made answer to him, "What is the matter, Thomas?" he said, "What is that to you? I will give you in charge"—I said, "It is time enough when I have done anything." (Henry Crook, a builder;——Parson, a smith and engineer; and Walter Hirris, a bookbinder, gave Sunter a good character). PRICE— GUILTY . SUNTER— GUILTY . Transported for Seven Years. | SUNTER, Walter James (I1450)
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| 99 | 2467. DAVID PRICE and WALTER JAMES SUNTER , for a robbery on William Nunn, putting him in fear, and stealing from his person 1 watch, value 3l., and 1 chain, value 1s., his goods. MR. THOMPSON conducted the Prosecution. WILLIAM NUNN . On Sunday night, 22nd Oct., I was in Tower-street, Westminster-road—Price came up to me and said, "How are you?"—I said, "Very well, how are you?"—he said, "Who would have thought of seeing you here"—I said, "I don't know that any one did"—he said, "Thomas, you certainly know me"—I said, "No; nor you don't know me; nor I don't want to have anything to say to you"—he directly put his hand to my pocket—I put my hand to my trowsers pocket, and five or six came round me, and one of them snatched my watch from my pocket—I heard the guard snap from my neck—when I came to myself a little from the struggle, Sunter had got hold of my stock, and shoved me backwards against the rail, and Price was standing by the side of him. Cross-examined by MR. SLEIGH. Q. What time was this? A. Half-past eleven at night—I am not married—I had not been talking to any one before this occurrence took place—I was walking by myself to the best of my knowledge—I had not been in company with some women just previously—I swear I was not outside a public-house speaking to some women—I never saw either of the prisoners before that night—there might be a good many men in the street—there were five or six round me—I will not swear there were not a dozen round me—it was not very dark, nor yet light—I had had part of a pot of beer in the Oxford Arms, in the same road in which I was robbed—I did not go into more than one public-house—I cannot tell what time I went into the public-house—I was not there above twenty minutes. COURT. Q. Were you sober? A. Yes; I am able to swear that these are the men that robbed and assaulted me—it was not a quarter of a minute after my watch was taken that the prisoners were taken by Mr. Watts. HENRY HOLLYMAN . On that night I was in Tower-street, Westminster-road about a quarter past twelve o'clock—I was about three yards on this side of the Oxford Anns—I heard a female call out, "Thomas!"—I turned and it was to Sunter she said, "Tom, mind the hole"—I saw Price speak to the prosecutor—he said, "Tom, how are you?"—he said, "I know nothing of you"—I turned down a street, and heard a scuffle—I came back and saw Sunter had got the prosecutor up against the fence, and a man and woman ran by me—Mr. Watts took Sunter, and he said he knew nothing about it. Price. When I put my hand to the prosecutor's pocket, why did he not give me in charge? WILLIAM NUNN re-examined. Because I was so confounded—I had not two girls under my arm—I had no girls that night. HENRY HOLLYMAN re-examined. When I saw the prosecutor in the first instance he had one woman leaning on his arm. JOEL WATTS . I live in Battersea-fields. On Sunday week I was returning home with my nephew, William Nunn, and a man and a woman—I was twenty yards a head of them—I heard my nephew call out for assistance—I went back and saw the two prisoners had hold of him—I collared them both and held them till a policeman came—I gave them in charge. Prices Defence. I am innocent; this gentleman said, "Have you seen any one come this way?" I said, "No;" I came across the road; I was just going home; I saw the prosecutor come out with two females; I went and had half a quartern of gin and was going home; I was standing at the corner half a minute and heard a row; I ran down the street and saw the prosecutor bustling about; I made answer to him, "What is the matter, Thomas?" he said, "What is that to you? I will give you in charge"—I said, "It is time enough when I have done anything." (Henry Crook, a builder;——Parson, a smith and engineer; and Walter Hirris, a bookbinder, gave Sunter a good character). PRICE— GUILTY . SUNTER— GUILTY . Transported for Seven Years. | PRICE, David (I1451)
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| 100 | 274. WILLIAM EDMONDS , stealing two baskets, value 3s.; the goods of Lucy Phillips: having been before convicted. LUCY PHILLIPS . On 14th Dec. I had two baskets hanging on the post inside the shop-door—I missed them—these are them. WILLIAM SMLE (policeman, E 110). I took these baskets off the prisoner's arm, twenty or thirty yards from the shop, on the opposite side. Prisoner's Defence. I picked them up. WILLIAM HOLMES (policeman, S 54). I produce a certificate of the prisoner's conviction—(read—Convicted Dec., 1846, and confined six months)—he is the person. GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years. | EDMUNDS, William (I1266)
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